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Re: OU-D Products that are Dairy Equipment
« Reply #60 on: August 29, 2023, 11:04:35 PM »
important element thats missing: What if the product is OU-D, and does not include "milk" in the allergy information?
There are some milk derivatives that wouldn't be in the allergy statement.
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Re: OU-D Products that are Dairy Equipment
« Reply #61 on: August 29, 2023, 11:31:39 PM »
There are some milk derivatives that wouldn't be in the allergy statement.

That wouldn't be battul? how common is that?

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Re: OU-D Products that are Dairy Equipment
« Reply #62 on: August 30, 2023, 12:08:47 AM »
There are some milk derivatives that wouldn't be in the allergy statement.
I assume this is referring to milk proteins?

Are there any examples besides caseinate? Are these types of ingredients ever listed ambiguously as “flavors” without an allergy disclaimer?

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Re: OU-D Products that are Dairy Equipment
« Reply #63 on: August 30, 2023, 12:17:57 AM »
important element thats missing: What if the product is OU-D, and does not include "milk" in the allergy information?

That wouldn't be battul? how common is that?

Those allergic to dairy are allergic to dairy בליעות too?

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Re: OU-D Products that are Dairy Equipment
« Reply #64 on: August 30, 2023, 12:47:00 AM »
As I've mentioned in other places, there have been a number of exceptions, most notably on plant based baby formula. This is a far cry from having seen on many products or that it originated from them. Kof-K and OK have been using the designation for many  years and it is much more likely that you saw it there or on baby formula than on cannabis chocolate or organic peanut butter cups.

As a kid I saw it many times until they phased it out. Everybody else has seen it as well. OU-DE designation has existed. Facts.
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Re: OU-D Products that are Dairy Equipment
« Reply #65 on: August 30, 2023, 08:20:49 AM »
As a kid I saw it many times until they phased it out. Everybody else has seen it as well. OU-DE designation has existed. Facts.

Not sure how old you are, but 25 years ago the one single exception was baby formula and it was already like that for some time. This I know from personal involvement and discussion with higher ups at the OU.
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Re: OU-D Products that are Dairy Equipment
« Reply #66 on: August 30, 2023, 08:40:06 AM »
Not sure how old you are, but 25 years ago the one single exception was baby formula and it was already like that for some time. This I know from personal involvement and discussion with higher ups at the OU.
Are you saying this is a Mandela Effect phenomenon?
There are thousands of people who say that OU-DE existed 25 years ago.

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Re: OU-D Products that are Dairy Equipment
« Reply #67 on: August 30, 2023, 08:57:10 AM »
Not sure how old you are, but 25 years ago the one single exception was baby formula and it was already like that for some time. This I know from personal involvement and discussion with higher ups at the OU.

Older than 25, it seems strange you are claiming it never existed 25 years ago except for one case. There are a number of posts on the internet from over a decade ago asking why OU discontinued DE, including DDF. Mandela effect?

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Re: OU-D Products that are Dairy Equipment
« Reply #68 on: August 30, 2023, 09:07:17 AM »
Dairy free ice cream So Delicious brand



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Re: OU-D Products that are Dairy Equipment
« Reply #69 on: August 30, 2023, 09:10:56 AM »
Dairy free ice cream So Delicious brand

They have been transitioning several lines to DE.  Several people i know reached out to them.


This response is from 6/13/23

We appreciate you reaching out to us at So Delicious Dairy Free.

We apologize but we are transitioning So Delicious yogurt products to DE, certified by Orthodox Union, so consumers may see either certified Pareve or certified DE on products in market as the transition rolls through.

We apologize over any inconvenience this has caused, and we'll make sure to share your feedback with our team.

Let's keep in touch! Get the latest updates by following us on social media or visiting our website.

Take care and have a great day,
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Re: OU-D Products that are Dairy Equipment
« Reply #71 on: August 30, 2023, 09:57:27 AM »
That wouldn't be battul? how common is that?
A lot of probiotics are grown on dairy, dairy would not be on the ingredient list. The star k considers it true dairy.

Aside from probiotics, if you are confident that there are no ingredients with dairy you can assume it is DE. Even if there is dairy in a natural flavor it would be Batul the flavors themselves are a milsa deavida letaama, but the milchig component of the flavors are generally not what is giving that taam.  See Shach Y.D. 98:32.

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Re: OU-D Products that are Dairy Equipment
« Reply #72 on: September 08, 2023, 04:55:09 PM »
The OU just updated their search engine so that it can now tell you if a product is dairy or dairy equipment.  https://oukosher.org/product-search

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Re: OU-D Products that are Dairy Equipment
« Reply #73 on: September 08, 2023, 05:15:42 PM »
The OU just updated their search engine so that it can now tell you if a product is dairy or dairy equipment.  https://oukosher.org/product-search
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: OU-D Products that are Dairy Equipment
« Reply #74 on: September 08, 2023, 05:34:33 PM »
The OU just updated their search engine so that it can now tell you if a product is dairy or dairy equipment.  https://oukosher.org/product-search



It seemingly only shows you if a product has a DE symbol, not if it's actually DE.
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Re: OU-D Products that are Dairy Equipment
« Reply #75 on: September 08, 2023, 05:50:25 PM »
It seemingly only shows you if a product has a DE symbol, not if it's actually DE.
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Re: OU-D Products that are Dairy Equipment
« Reply #76 on: September 08, 2023, 05:55:55 PM »

My apologies. I misunderstood an email. It seems the update was as mentioned below simply to enable a search for de products. They also refer to products listed as de as “non confidential products” that are de. I know how excited I was so I am sorry for getting anyone’s hopes up.

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Re: OU-D Products that are Dairy Equipment
« Reply #77 on: September 10, 2023, 12:27:47 AM »
Is cinnamon toast crunch really pareve even though it has an OUd?

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Re: OU-D Products that are Dairy Equipment
« Reply #78 on: September 12, 2023, 06:13:03 AM »
OU would prob be better off building a list of products marked D that are really DE instead of having ppl answering emails about this constantly.

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Re: OU-D Products that are Dairy Equipment
« Reply #79 on: January 18, 2024, 08:41:59 AM »
The OU just updated their search engine so that it can now tell you if a product is dairy or dairy equipment.  https://oukosher.org/product-search
Does anyone know about Silk Almond Milk with an OU-D. People have always claimed it was actually DE but that doesn't show in the OU search. I have emailed the OU but have not yet heard back.