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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #121 on: August 16, 2023, 01:58:54 PM »
Please encourage her to speak to Dan. I know most people (and frum people in particular) are reluctant to speak to the media, but he will treat her and her story with the respect and dignity she deserves
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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #122 on: August 16, 2023, 01:59:25 PM »
I don't think community notes apply to this kind of story. They are supposed to use unbiased factual sources. This is more of a he said-she said, you can't exactly pull out a 1000% factual source to counter her claim.

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Her tweet mentions that he searched and found a woman to sit next to him instead
https://x.com/neriakraus/status/1691716004118712439?s=46&t=SoH2bwJD3VbSFn06Yjzrqw
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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #123 on: August 16, 2023, 02:01:20 PM »
I was thinking about this. What if we use the fact (which she concedes in a later tweet) that he ended up asking a female to switch with the male who was next to him. I think this is important missing context to the initial viral tweet that implies he doesn't want to sit next to females for religious reasons.

An eyewitnesses has asserted that the request to change seats had nothing to do with gender. Rather the passenger asked the reporter to move so his son could it next to his friend. Passenger ended up sitting next to a different female passenger in order to accommodate his son. https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/airlines/united/eyewitness-shares-saw-happen-united-flight-85-no-discrimination/

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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #124 on: August 16, 2023, 02:01:59 PM »
she became so irate she was unable to hear him and realized the request had nothing to do with her gender.

It should probaly say realize?

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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #125 on: August 16, 2023, 02:02:31 PM »
An eyewitnesses has asserted that the request to change seats had nothing to do with gender. Rather the passenger asked the reporter to move so his son could it next to his friend. Passenger ended up sitting next to a different female passenger in order to accommodate his son. https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/airlines/united/eyewitness-shares-saw-happen-united-flight-85-no-discrimination/

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I think that you can go back to "eyewitnesses", based on Dans update.

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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #126 on: August 16, 2023, 02:04:42 PM »
Looks decent to me but clean up the grammar and add all the DD links imo

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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #127 on: August 16, 2023, 02:05:09 PM »
2 more witnesses:

https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/airlines/united/eyewitness-shares-saw-happen-united-flight-85-no-discrimination/
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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #128 on: August 16, 2023, 02:06:06 PM »
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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #129 on: August 16, 2023, 02:06:51 PM »
Then, 45M and 46V said that 48W did not see the story, but only relied on 47R's account of the story, but that 41V and 41Q were actually both women and who wanted to switch first...


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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #130 on: August 16, 2023, 02:09:01 PM »
Dan, maybe bump the DDMS post to the top now that you've made an update.

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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #132 on: August 16, 2023, 02:13:03 PM »
An eyewitnesses has asserted that the request to change seats had nothing to do with gender. Rather the passenger asked the reporter to move so his son could it next to his friend. Passenger ended up sitting next to a different female passenger in order to accommodate his son. https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/airlines/united/eyewitness-shares-saw-happen-united-flight-85-no-discrimination/

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Which tweet will you do this one? There are now so many viral ones she has made. Perhaps on all of them, maybe too much?
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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #133 on: August 16, 2023, 02:13:24 PM »


I assume too late but actually would have replaced "so his son could sit next to his friend" with "so that he, his son, and the friend could all sit together". B/c she just tried to claim that if the goal was to have the son next to his friend then the father could have switched with the friend and they shouldn't have asked her to move, rather, they specifically wanted her out

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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #134 on: August 16, 2023, 02:13:56 PM »
Is there a way to find specific notes to rate?

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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #135 on: August 16, 2023, 02:15:49 PM »
@Dan @jj1000, if/when you want this translated into modern Hebrew please reach out, I am willing to help. I think this deserves to have a special Hebrew post on DDMS.
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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #136 on: August 16, 2023, 02:16:07 PM »
Is there a way to find specific notes to rate?

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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #137 on: August 16, 2023, 02:17:17 PM »
@Dan @jj1000, if/when you want this translated into modern Hebrew please reach out, I am willing to help. I think this deserves to have a special Hebrew post on DDMS.
As an alternative, perhaps use the built in translator and see if the story translates accurately. Maybe some changes could be made to the English post, so anyone clicking 'translate' can get a good read.

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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #139 on: August 16, 2023, 02:19:31 PM »

Can someone translate what's going on?
Likud MK Tali Gotlieb called Nariah Kraus a liar for fabricating a story on chareidim
https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-754957