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-See the Pros and Cons of life in CLE here: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=21675.msg332327#msg332327
-See the Pros and Cons of Beachwood vs University Heights here: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1343.msg1718049#msg1718049
-See information about school vouchers here: https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1343.msg1949250#msg1949250


Airports:
-CLE is about 15 minutes from downtown and 25-30 minutes from the Jewish community.  It's a focus city for Frontier, Spirit, and United.
-The RTA (Rapid transit train) at Brookpark station has free parking and is just 1 train stop (3 minutes) to the stop inside the airport. The train costs $2.50 and the schedule is here: http://www.riderta.com/routes/redline/schedules/current#WestboundWeekday
An uber from Brookpark station to CLE is about $10.
-Uber between the Jewish community and CLE is about $30.
-CLE off-site parking is about $9/day, on-site parking is $13-$18/day, and curbside valet parking is $25/day.

-CAK is 40-45 minutes from the Jewish community and located nearby the NFL Hall of Fame.
-Uber between the Jewish community and CAK is about $45.
-CAK parking is $7/day for long-term and $15-$18/day for short-term.

-PIT is 90-105 minutes from the Jewish community. It offers nonstop service to Iceland on WOW, seasonal nonstop service to Paris on Delta, and seasonal nonstop service to Frankfurt on Condor.

Hotels:
-There is a new Hyatt Place in Legacy Village within walking distance of the Jewish community, though it's located just outside of the Eruv. It costs only 5K points/night.
-There is an SPG (Aloft) in Beachwood, but it's 3.5 miles to the jewish community.
-There is a Sheraton on the west side by the airport (30 minutes drive), a Westin downtown, and an Aloft in the flats.
-There is a highly regarded Sheraton Suites by Cuyahoga Falls/Akron.
-There is a nice Hyatt Regency downtown (25 minutes drive) in a unique vintage arcade building and an excellent spa that gives hotel guests 25% off and accepts SpaFinder certs from Costco that can be purchased for an additional 20% off.
-There is a Hyatt Place in Independence located between the airport and Jewish community with a free airport shuttle.

Transportation:
-There is a subway/light rail connecting the airport with downtown, University Circle (where the Case campus and many museums are) and the Jewish community area, but renting a car is pretty much required.

Minyan times and locations:
https://www.localjewishnews.com/minyanim/

CLE Metro Activities:
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Museums:
-Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (Downtown)
-Great Lakes Science Center (Downtown)
-NFL Hall of Fame (Canton)
-National Inventors Hall of Fame. (Akron)
-Cleveland Museum of Art, one of the best in the nation and it's free (University Circle)
-Children's Museum  (University Circle)
-Museum of Natural History and Planetarium (University Circle)
-Auto-Aviation museum has lots of vintage cars and more (University Circle)
-Maltz Museum of Jewish Heritage (Beachwood)
-Polka Hall of Fame (Downtown)

Amusement parks/Thrill rides/Game Rooms:
-Cedar Point has been voted "Best Amusement Park in the World" for 16 consecutive years. It has the best and several of the top 10 coasters in the world. (Sandusky, open May-October)
-IX Indoor Amusement Park (Open March/April)
-Chalet Tobogganing (November-March) on the west side.
-Fun-n-stuff (Arcades, later tag, mini golf, rock climbing, roller skating, mini go karts for the little ones, regular go karts, bumper boats, batting cages, etc.)
-Whirly ball is a spin-off of Basketball played on bumper cars.
-Dave & Busters is on the west side near Crocker Park.
-African Safari Wildlife Park Sandusky
-Kalahari Indoor Waterpark and Soak City outdoor waterpark in Sandusky.
-Memphis Kiddie Park (Amusement park for kids)
-Jumpyard for kids
-Playground World for kids
-Swings & Things
-Make Believe (Parma)
-Adrenaline Monkey
-Play Cle

Beaches/Water Activities:
-North Coast Harbor Marina has Jet skis for 100/hr and 60/half hr. Paddle boats, kayaks, and paddle boards are $25/hour or $15/half hr (Downtown).
-Edgewater beach park
-Mentor Headlands beach park
-Geneva on the lake.
-Jet Pack Water Adventures in Sandusky

Sports:
-The Indians, Cavs, and Browns provide major league sports entertainment in downtown Cleveland along with the minor league hockey Lake Erie Monsters.  Browns games are great with some of the best/craziest fans in the NFL and the Indians have a glatt kosher hot dog stand.
-There are minor league Indians teams in Akron and in Eastlake on the east side of Cleveland.

Other activities:
-Segway tour of Downtown CLE
-Zoo and Rainforest (Free for CLE residents on Mondays)
-Aquarium (Downtown)
-Horseshoe Casino, Smoke-free! (Downtown)
-Cleveland Orchestra, one of the "Big Five" American orchestras (University Circle)
-Playhouse Square, second largest theater complex in the United States with Broadway shows at a fraction of the cost on Broadway.
-East 4th downtown pedestrian street district (bars/comedy shows/bowling/casino).
-Lake Erie Islands/Put-in-Bay.
-Big Fun novelty toy store (Cleveland Heights)
-Chagrin Falls is a quaint village on the east side to walk around and you to can be chagrined by the falls.
-Outdoor Ice Skating. (University Circle)
-Amish country.
-Horseback Riding

Shopping:
-Legacy Village is an outdoor mall in the Jewish community.
-Pinecrest is a new outdoor mall and is a great place to walk around. Big Fun has lots of kosher candy and popcorn. Graeter's has Star-K parve sorbet and Star-D ice cream. Pinstripes has bocce and bowling and games are just $1 for the last hour of each day.
-Beachwood Place is an indoor mall in the Jewish community.
-Eton is a high-end strip-mall near the Jewish community.
-Crocker Park is an excellent outdoor mall on the west-side of town.
-West Side Market is a world-renown indoor food and produce market in Ohio City west of downtown (Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday)

Hiking/Nature:
-Cuyahoga Valley National Park and Train rides.
-The "Emerald Necklace" is a chain of green Metroparks with great hiking that surrounds Cleveland.  October should be perfect to view the fall foliage.
-Acacia reservation is in the jewish community.
-Squire's Castle in the North Chagrin Reservation of the Cleveland Metroparks.
-Squaw Rock in South Chagrin Reservation of the Cleveland Metroparks.

Nearby Cities:
-Erie/Presque Isle Beach (1.5 hours)
-Pittsburgh (2 hours)
-Columbus (2 hours)
-Detroit (2.5 hours)
-Niagara Falls (3 hours)
-Toronto (4.5 hours)
-Chicago (6 hours)
-Baltimore (6 hours)
-NYC (7 hours)
-Lakewood (8 hours)

Microbreweries:

-Bottlehouse microbrewery (You can bring your own food!)  (Cleveland Heights, 4.5/5 DD stars)

-Great Lakes Brewpub and Brewery in Ohio City (Don't miss the mob-era bullet holes, tours available, 4.5/5 DD stars)

-Market Garden Brewery in Ohio City

Kosher Eateries:

Delivery is available on:
UberEats: Bar Sushi, Jade
Doordash: Arova, FishStix, Grand Coffee, Isis, Kantina

1. Arova (South Euclid)
Shwarma, Falafel, shnitzel, in homemade Laffas.

2. Bagel Shoppe (South Euclid)
Don't miss the excellent Jalapano bagels and ask them to add garlic crunch inside. Shabbos takeout (dips/kugels) is available here.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/TheBagelShoppe/about

3. Bar Sushi(Beachwood)
New sushi store with small eat-in area. You can bring sushi next door and eat in at Bar None where they serve kosher wines and beers.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/barsushicleveland/about/

4. FishStix (Beachwood) has excellent fish and chips. Shabbos takeout (dips/kugels) is available here.
https://www.fishstixonline.com/

5. Jade(South Euclid)
Delicious chinese food: Fried won-tons, hot and sour soup, spicy mala chicken, sesame chicken. Shabbos takeout can be ordered from here in advance.

6. Kantina (Cleveland uptown/University Circle): Burger, Kantina Burger, Shnitzel, Shnitzel fried steak , Cookie Dough Shake, Buffalo chicken, Felafel, and Fries are all very inexpensive.
https://www.kantinakatering.com/new-page
https://www.doordash.com/store/kantina-cleveland-202802/

7. Kinneret Pizza (Cleveland Heights)
Very good plain pizza, order with extra sauce and well done. Avoid the toppings. 
Excellent garlic knots. Very good homemade onion rings and cauliflower.  Sushi is very good when fresh. Good spicy fries and decent Eggplant Parmesan.  Delicious soft serve Ice Cream with 8 flavor choices.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kinneret-Kosher-Pizza-Restaurant/100882353290369

8. Issi's Pizza (South Euclid)
The pizza is made in a conveyor belt oven. You'll either like it or hate it.  Try the felafel pizza with extra sauce and request it made well done.
http://issisplace.com/
https://www.doordash.com/store/issi-s-place-south-euclid-304154/

9. Sababa (South Euclid)
Decent Sushi, Japanese, and Israeli food.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Sababa-Cuisine-655818931222332/about

10. Subway (Beachwood)
Typical Subway with parve cheese available.
http://www.mandeljcc.org/kosher-subway/mandel/

11. The glatt kosher hot dog stand at Progressive Field (Downtown Cleveland, 4/5 stars) near section 149 is open during Indians games and is under Cleveland Kosher. 2018 price is $8 per hot dog. Be sure to ask for packets of Bertman mustard.
Bring your own water bottles to avoid paying $5 for water!
https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2017/06/what_does_kosher_mean_at_the_b.html


-JSL Catering has occasional restaurant nights and has shabbos takeout available with advance ordering.
https://jslcatering.com/

-Ungers Bakery & Kosher Market (Cleveland Heights, Donuts: 5/5 DD stars, other bakery goods: 2/5 DD stars) closes at 8pm, but often may let you in later as they have bakers there all night long.
My favorites are the custard and cinnamon donuts. Others love the Miami and glaze donuts.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ungers-Kosher-Bakery-Food-Shop/115920261762129

-Chocolate Emporium (South Euclid) has chocolates made on-site as well as other gifts.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/ChocolateEmporiumCLE/about

-Grand Coffee (Cleveland Heights) sells C"Y coffee, ice cream, and milk shakes in a Judaica store.

-Tibor's (Beachwood) has a deli with lots of prepared food and good spicy homemade salami and beef jerky.  They also carry bakery goods from Ungers. Shabbos takeout is available here.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Tibors-Kosher-Meats/126208197434026

-Boris' (University Heights) is yet another butcher/deli with kosher grocery items that also carries Pride of the Farm Ice Cream.
http://www.boriskosher.com/

-Heinen's (University Heights) has a great kosher grocery section with packaged prepared meals. Shabbos takeout is available here.

-Costco (Mayfield Heights) has a large kosher section.

-Mitchell's Ice Cream (Beachwood and Ohio City, Considered some of the finest ice cream in the world. Cholov Stam under Quality Kosher, which is not a universally accepted hashgocha, so AYLOR).

-Graeter's Ice Cream (Pinecrest, Parve and Cholov Stam. Ice creams are under the Star-K, but the actual store is not.).
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« Reply #2010 on: April 21, 2017, 06:55:03 PM »
Anyone order from here yet?
https://www.sushi2gocleveland.com/menus
Couldn't have posted this earlier today?
I didn't know he started doing this but I've had his sushi before, it's pretty good.
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Differences between Beachwood and University Heights, aside from the latter having voucher and former not?
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« Reply #2012 on: April 23, 2017, 01:57:54 PM »
Differences between Beachwood and University Heights, aside from the latter having voucher and former not?

The mega shuls (5 and counting) are all clustered together on the UH/Beachwood border. 4 are on the Beachwood side, which means not having to cross a major street to get to shul.

Both cities have free busing to all 3 of the frum schools.

UH Pros:
-Kids get school voucher (currently $4,650 for K-8 ad $6,000 for high school) regardless of income. If you make below a threshold the school must accept the voucher as payment in full, otherwise you'll still have the pay the difference.
-Cheaper housing

UH Cons:
-4.1% property tax.
-2.5% income tax. Only a 1% credit if you work outside of UH, so if you work in CLE you'll pay CLE 2.5% and UH 1.5%. If you work in Beachwood you'll pay Beachwood 2% and UH 1.5%.
-Garbage is weight limited and many items can't be thrown away.
-Failing public school district means that there is a limited market for home sales, though frum Jews are moving in at unprecedented rates which have reduced the time that houses are on the market.
-Houses are closer together.
-Point of sale inspection required for home sales.

Beachwood Pros:
-2% income tax and full credit if you work outside Beachwood, so if you work in CLE you'll pay CLE 2.5% and owe Beachwood nothing. If you work in Beachwood you'll pay Beachwood 2%.
-1.9% property tax.
-Excellent street snowplowing
-Sidewalk snowplowing
-On-demand garbage pickup available. Anything can be thrown away.
-Your house will sell very quickly, often before it even hits the market.
-One of the best public school districts in the state, making for a broad home selling market.
-Houses are more spread apart.
-No point of sale inspection required for home sales.
-Very fast and high-tech EMS/Fire response.

Beachwood cons:
-No school voucher
-Pricier houses

Might be forgetting a few more stuff, but that's the gist of it.
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« Reply #2013 on: April 23, 2017, 02:40:19 PM »
Excellent rundown. Thanks.

Gotta run the math if the vouchers exceed increased property and income tax.
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« Reply #2014 on: April 23, 2017, 04:01:56 PM »
Excellent rundown. Thanks.

Gotta run the math if the vouchers exceed increased property and income tax.
True. Especially since vouchers only help while you have kids in school, but property taxes you have to pay regardless

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« Reply #2015 on: April 23, 2017, 04:02:37 PM »
What's the best option for 12 hr parking at cle?

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« Reply #2017 on: April 23, 2017, 06:05:37 PM »
There's always this free option...http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1343.msg1473006#msg1473006
Anyone have experience doing this? How late does the train run? Getting in at 11:20 pm

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« Reply #2018 on: April 23, 2017, 06:08:14 PM »
Anyone have experience doing this? How late does the train run? Getting in at 11:20 pm
http://www.riderta.com/routes/redline/schedules/current#WestboundWeekday
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Added several items to Wiki.
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« Reply #2020 on: April 23, 2017, 07:43:07 PM »
The mega shuls (5 and counting) are all clustered together on the UH/Beachwood border. 4 are on the Beachwood side, which means not having to cross a major street to get to shul.

Both cities have free busing to all 3 of the frum schools.

UH Pros:
-Kids get school voucher (currently $4,650 for K-8 ad $6,000 for high school) regardless of income. If you make below a threshold the school must accept the voucher as payment in full, otherwise you'll still have the pay the difference.
-Cheaper housing

UH Cons:
-4.1% property tax.
-2.5% income tax. Only a 1% credit if you work outside of UH, so if you work in CLE you'll pay CLE 2.5% and UH 1.5%. If you work in Beachwood you'll pay Beachwood 2% and UH 1.5%.
-Garbage is weight limited and many items can't be thrown away.
-Failing public school district means that there is a limited market for home sales, though frum Jews are moving in at unprecedented rates which have reduced the time that houses are on the market.
-Houses are closer together.
-Point of sale inspection required for home sales.

Beachwood Pros:
-2% income tax and full credit if you work outside Beachwood, so if you work in CLE you'll pay CLE 2.5% and owe Beachwood nothing. If you work in Beachwood you'll pay Beachwood 2%.
-1.9% property tax.
-Excellent street snowplowing
-Sidewalk snowplowing
-On-demand garbage pickup available. Anything can be thrown away.
-Your house will sell very quickly, often before it even hits the market.
-One of the best public school districts in the state, making for a broad home selling market.
-Houses are more spread apart.
-No point of sale inspection required for home sales.
-Very fast and high-tech EMS/Fire response.

Beachwood cons:
-No school voucher
-Pricier houses

Might be forgetting a few more stuff, but that's the gist of it.
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Re: Cleveland Master Thread
« Reply #2021 on: April 23, 2017, 07:46:33 PM »
Ungera donuts deserve 5/5 stars imo.

Also you gotta try the bagel Shoppe hash browns have them cooking well before you get there and their omelet bagel is good too.
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« Reply #2022 on: April 23, 2017, 07:59:30 PM »
Green road is a joke of a major street to put as a con imo not that is want to live on it  but crossing is not a big deal.
It is for your 7 year old.
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It is for your 7 year old.
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Re: Cleveland Master Thread
« Reply #2024 on: April 23, 2017, 09:35:42 PM »
Added several items to Wiki.
As long as you're at it, what about Sweet Cakes by Mimi?