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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #10822 on: May 23, 2024, 12:07:16 AM »

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #10823 on: May 23, 2024, 12:12:15 AM »
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1793412129984553351
I appreciate the sentiment, but I think the analogy he is trying to make is a little mixed up..... Why is it if Israel would do what russia did? maybe say it the other way, that the world freaks out when the US puts any restrictions on Israel's use of US weapons, but Ukraine, who needs them more, is not allowed to use them the way they want?

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #10824 on: May 23, 2024, 12:19:38 AM »
Well, seems like that’s changing:
https://x.com/kimdotcom/status/1793430285171994761

Maybe I misheard, but it seemed like he was being called out for applying the same policy in Ukraine as he is in Israel, and he didn't walk it back (at least in the clip). Looks like the administration's policy is that we won't be party to our arms putting any civilians at any kind of risk, even when that means additional casualties to our allies' civilians. We've rewritten the laws of war, giving aggressive bad actors the advantage. It makes me wonder what our policy would be if it was our own civilians under attack, G-d forbid.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #10825 on: May 23, 2024, 12:28:03 AM »
I appreciate the sentiment, but I think the analogy he is trying to make is a little mixed up..... Why is it if Israel would do what russia did? maybe say it the other way, that the world freaks out when the US puts any restrictions on Israel's use of US weapons, but Ukraine, who needs them more, is not allowed to use them the way they want?

His point is that if we are so concerned with indiscriminate bombing of civilians, why are we basically silent on what Russia is doing in Ukraine, in contrast to the amount of time we spend speaking about the IDF civilian casualty rate.

However, you are correct that his analogy is wrong, as the aggressor's indiscriminate bombing isn't in question here. We don't supply Russia with arms, and in fact support the other side. He would make a better point by saying we don't do enough to help any of our allies when faced with enemies who murder indiscriminately.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #10827 on: May 23, 2024, 10:19:16 AM »
Maybe I misheard, but it seemed like he was being called out for applying the same policy in Ukraine as he is in Israel, and he didn't walk it back (at least in the clip). Looks like the administration's policy is that we won't be party to our arms putting any civilians at any kind of risk, even when that means additional casualties to our allies' civilians. We've rewritten the laws of war, giving aggressive bad actors the advantage. It makes me wonder what our policy would be if it was our own civilians under attack, G-d forbid.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #10828 on: May 23, 2024, 10:31:59 AM »
Seems like this video that was released yesterday from the girls abduction did some unfortunately good PR.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #10830 on: May 23, 2024, 11:36:25 AM »
Palestinian channels: Dia' a-Din al-Shurafa, the deputy commander of the Hamas national security forces in the Gaza Strip, in the rank equivalent to a general, was killed this morning in an IDF attack in the al-Saraya area of ​​Gaza City.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #10832 on: May 23, 2024, 02:37:17 PM »
I appreciate the sentiment, but I think the analogy he is trying to make is a little mixed up..... Why is it if Israel would do what russia did? maybe say it the other way, that the world freaks out when the US puts any restrictions on Israel's use of US weapons, but Ukraine, who needs them more, is not allowed to use them the way they want?
The US puts plenty of restrictions on Ukraine.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #10834 on: May 23, 2024, 02:57:46 PM »
ICJ now expected to rule against Israel and order halt. Israel expected to ignore.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #10835 on: May 23, 2024, 03:02:36 PM »
The US puts plenty of restrictions on Ukraine.

With no real backlash, that's his point.

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« Last Edit: May 23, 2024, 03:32:46 PM by ExGingi »
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #10838 on: May 23, 2024, 03:22:52 PM »
This video is from a short while before the horrific video published earlier this week.

https://x.com/SlippinJimmy___/status/1793563000458334208
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #10839 on: May 23, 2024, 03:33:43 PM »
https://x.com/2023gazawar/status/1792598450363621459

Analysis from Andrew Fox a retired British Army Major seems to echo this:
"If you look at what is possible, what the best version of “success” looks like, and what Israel is doing, I contend that in Gaza we are seeing a masterpiece of operational design within severe politically imposed limitations. The IDF is not trying to clear Gaza. With no ability to impose a political arrangement in Gaza, and a Gazan desire for continued Hamas rule, the IDF answer is: Let them have Hamas. But the version of Hamas that Gazans will get is one heavily degraded militarily, and, most importantly, with vast swaths of their tunnels and civilian-embedded infrastructure destroyed." https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/israel-succeeding-gaza