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Author Topic: Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread  (Read 1647460 times)

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #11440 on: June 11, 2024, 01:07:00 AM »
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #11442 on: June 11, 2024, 01:52:31 AM »
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/israeli-special-forces-dressed-palestinian-refugees-hostage-rescue/story?id=110995204

Actually decent article from MSM. Kamuvan they aren't fully accurate, but it's a basic statement of facts with proper attribution for the more dubious facts.
Anyone disagree?

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #11443 on: June 11, 2024, 02:19:42 AM »
In every give and take relationship both sides are reliant on each other, but US assistance to Israel is different. Israel cannot sustain a day with its surrounding enemies without the life support of the US. Is it in America's interest to support them? sure, but clearly one side has at best an interest while the other needs it like oxygen.
I don’t think this is accurate. The United States gives about 3-4 billion a year for defense        (keep in mind it’s Likely with inflated prices and the money needs to be spent on American defense industry). Israel’s gdp is over half a trillion dollars. The support at least in terms of money is less then 1% of gdp. 

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #11444 on: June 11, 2024, 05:13:56 AM »
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/391425
Correspondence reveals: Yahya Sinwar on Gaza civilian casualties: 'Necessary sacrifices'
Wall Street Journal reveals correspondence between Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar and other Hamas terrorists, showing that Sinwar does not mind civilian casualties, believe they 'work to his advantage.'

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #11446 on: June 11, 2024, 10:24:07 AM »
I don’t think this is accurate. The United States gives about 3-4 billion a year for defense        (keep in mind it’s Likely with inflated prices and the money needs to be spent on American defense industry). Israel’s gdp is over half a trillion dollars. The support at least in terms of money is less then 1% of gdp.

These numbers are the regular scheduled assistance. During wartime, emergency assistance increases many times as much, like the ones Washington approved to provide during this war, in addition to the US military's deployment with carriers, vessels etc. in the area and taking down threats all on their dime. And that's all besides the priceless assurance of American intervention with the full might of its military lest Israel faces an existential threat, which keeps Israel's enemies at bay.   

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #11448 on: June 11, 2024, 12:29:41 PM »

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #11449 on: June 13, 2024, 11:26:00 PM »
https://x.com/jewishwarrior13/status/1801430936921256320

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UNBELIEVABLE NEW DETAILS REVEALED FROM OPERATION ‘ARNON’:

According to reports in Israel, the IDF received information about the whereabouts of Noa Argamani, Almog Meir Jan, Andrey Kozlov, and Shlomi Ziv as early as May 12. From that moment on, every intelligence unit was focused on them around the clock. To gather more information, a team of undercover operators was sent into the Nuseirat camp to walk around the market and collect information from the locals, as well as verify information received from captured terrorists.

After 19 days of intensive intelligence gathering, Israel had solid information regarding the exact location of the four hostages. In early June, the information was brought to the War Cabinet, and the Chief of Staff and the head of the Shin Bet were asked to submit a plan for a rescue operation.

In order to verify the information and prepare the ground for the operation, another team of undercover male operators and hijab-wearing female operators was sent to the Nuseirat camp. They arrived in two very old cars, full of household items and mattresses, posing as displaced Gazan families looking for a spacious home.

It was also revealed that when the YAMAM operators burst into the room to rescue Noa Argamani, she was initially in shock and did not understand the situation. Her first question was whether her mother was still alive. The operator next to her answered her, "Yes." She asked again, "Are you sure?" then our IDF Lion answered her with the brilliance that only such a man could find: "That's what we came for, to return you to your mother."
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #11450 on: June 13, 2024, 11:36:04 PM »
Reports of a major elimination in Lebanon.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #11451 on: June 13, 2024, 11:55:01 PM »
Reports of a major elimination in Lebanon.
Target was Hashim Safi Al Din heir apparent to Nasrallah. Reports that he was not home and is alive.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #11457 on: June 14, 2024, 02:29:58 PM »
This is a good indicator of the problem with the extreme left. Extreme racism, and extremely bad at basic facts:

https://x.com/RitchieTorres/status/1801658083329872279

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« Reply #11458 on: June 14, 2024, 03:06:39 PM »
Not an hour goes by without another lie by the UN:

https://x.com/cogatonline/status/1801652581782946160

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