ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION

[Chachom]

*Nasrallah

Source?

I said rumors for a reason.

[yelped]

Doubtful he would be so stupid as to leave his tunnel for prayer in a mosque.

He wasn't there but the others weren't exactly there for prayer, either.

[ExGingi]

*Nasrallah

Source?

Look up the Russian translation of the word Nasrallah.

Every time I see the name in isolation I get reminded of a joke told on Israeli TV in Russian involving the name.

[yelped]

Exactly this:

https://x.com/Mr_Andrew_Fox/status/1822324265552683434

[mevinyavin]

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/394476
Netanyahu has painted himself into a corner - intentionally
Netanyahu has intentionally painted himself into a corner by telling the truth about the Philadelphi Corridor. At stake is Israel's survival. Opinion.

Dr. Aaron Lernerheads IMRA - Independent Media Review and Analysis, since 1992 providing news and analysis on the Middle East with a focus on Arab-Israeli relations.

Prime Minister Netanyahu has made it crystal clear that there is no substitute for a continued presence of IDF forces on the Philadelphi Corridor, actively engaged in the very physical activity associated with detecting and destroying smuggling tunnels.

That's both tunnels being actively excavated or rebuilt AND tunnels which already exist.

I mention "tunnels which already exist" because the sensors being proposed as a substitute for boots on the ground detect the sound of excavation activity. These sensors wouldn't have detected the huge vehicle tunnel discovered two weeks ago because it wasn't under construction. And there's no telling how many more such tunnels have yet to be discovered.

To be clear: Anyone with the most basic understanding of the situation knows that it would be virtually impossible for Israeli to seriously act on information regarding smuggling tunnels if the IDF isn't deployed on the Philadelphi Corridor.

Right now, there are reports of constant electricity failures in the Philadelphi Corridor whose source is the Egyptian side of the tunnel. Those reports claim that electricity company workers are being bribed by Hamas to cause the blackouts, during which sensors don't work and the terrorists attempt to rebuild tunnels and smuggle in arms.

Let's walk through this: Israel has retreated from the Gaza Strip and a gizmo detects a tunnel.

#1. Egypt denies that the tunnel detected exists and then explains that even if it exists it doesn't reach Egypt and if it reaches Egypt it is old and was shut down.

#2. The CIA backs the Egyptians and Israel is warned not to insult peace partner Egypt by pursuing the issue.

#3. "Sources" in the Israeli security cabinet, the media and retired military figures proclaim that: "The IDF will be able to deal with whatever is smuggled into Gaza through the tunnels and besides, Hamas is deterred by the destruction and losses it endured in the last round."

Netanyahu didn't go public on this as a negotiating tactic to raise the value of the Philadelphi Corridor "bargaining chip." He went public because he wanted to be painted into a corner for Israel's survival.

The army is against leaving the Corridor.

But he is stuck with a negotiating team which seems to behave like a Wall Street dealmaker, interested more in the commission than the quality of the deal.

And he faces a room full of senior members of the Israeli security establishment also determined to make a deal come what may.

Are they that stupid? Or are these tic-tac-toe players engaged in three-dimensional chess?

Ok. I will say it: There are people in the room who think that removing Netanyahu from power is a necessary condition for Israel's survival. There may be even some who are convinced that it is a sufficient condition. And that’s exactly what they think Israel’s agreeing to withdraw for the Philadelphi Corridor will do.

In a way, that explanation is more comforting than the possibility that these guys simply aren't the sharpest tools in the shed.

But they prove that keeping Netanyahu in power now may be the only way Israel can survive.

I appreciate that it is very hard for Netanyahu to buck all of these people, and that these people are going to do everything in their power using every means possible to force Netanyahu to fold.

I wouldn't be surprised if the negotiators tell their interlocutors what they would accept if not for the instructions from Netanyahu, and then return to Jerusalem with marching orders from the White House backing them.

The "kitchen" will be glowing with heat when the negotiators return, but Netanyahu is the one who wanted to be in the kitchen.

[mevinyavin]

Bump.

RYB, Leil Tisha B'Av 5777, said (note: paraphrased from memory),
There is a beautiful posuk in Eicha, "Chasdei Hashem Ki Lo Somnu Kil Lo Cholu Rachamav." We don't find that we lein it in a different tune than the rest of Eicha. What was Yirmiyahu complaining about when he said this?
The problem was that throughout the process that lead to the destruction of the Beis Hamikdash, the nissim didn't stop. Amazing yeshuos were occuring constantly. People looked at the nissim and said, "Hashem still loves us!" Then they ignored the fact that Hashem had also sent the NEED for those nissim.
We can't ignore the thousands of rockets and simply think, "Well, they aren't hitting anybody." We have to remember that Hashem also sent the rockets...

[AsherO]

He wasn't there but the others weren't exactly there for prayer, either.

He’s a much higher value (and less expendable) target than them.

[AsherO]

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/394476
Netanyahu has painted himself into a corner - intentionally
Netanyahu has intentionally painted himself into a corner by telling the truth about the Philadelphi Corridor. At stake is Israel's survival. Opinion.

The claim that Egyptians can cause the IDF power outages in Rafah sounds ludicrous.

[Moshe Green]

Based on https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/game-israel-again-thinks-iran-poised-major-retaliation-us-deploys-sub-hurries-carrier

In a major shift in its recent assessment of Iran's intentions, Israeli intelligence reportedly now believes that Iran is preparing a major strike on Israel after all -- and that it will happen in the next few days. This comes after Israel had concluded that international pressure and US saber-rattling had persuaded Iran to leave it to Lebanese militant group Hezbollah to strike Israel for blowing up Hamas political leader Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran on July 31.

Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant shared his country's latest assessment with US Secretary of State Lloyd Austin in a Sunday conversation, Axios reported -- telling Austin that Iranian actions signify the country is readying a major strike. Also on Sunday, Gallant told an Israeli Defense Forces unit that Iran and Hezbollah "are threatening to harm us in a way they haven't done in the past."

Laden with upwards of 154 Tomahawk land-attack cruise missiles, the USS Georgia has been ordered into CENTCOM's area of operations
Israeli intelligence's see-sawing assessment reflects an ongoing debate inside the Iranian government, a source with access to the intelligence told Axios:

The Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps [IRGC] is pushing for a more severe and broader response than Iran's April 13 attack on Israel, but the new Iranian president and his advisers believe a regional escalation now wouldn't serve Iran's interests, the source said.

[imayid2]

Looking more and more likely that they are aiming for a Tisha B’av attack due to it’s historical significance?

[Yehuda57]

Looking more and more likely that they are aiming for a Tisha B’av attack due to it’s historical significance?

Just heard a theory from Nadav Eyal on Dan Senor's podcast, Iran promised France they'd wait until after the Olympics.

[Euclid]

Just heard a theory from Nadav Eyal on Dan Senor's podcast, Iran promised France they'd wait until after the Olympics.

what type of relations does Iran have with France, that it would care about this?

[Yehuda57]

what type of relations does Iran have with France, that it would care about this?

No idea, it could be a real thing without being a mutual agreement with France, they might not want to "compete" with the Olympics themselves.

[ExGingi]

what type of relations does Iran have with France, that it would care about this?

Huh?

Where was Khumeini based before his return to Iran in 1979?

Are you aware of the size of the French Muslim community (in large cities)?

The French have commercial interests in Lebanon. They are total prostitutes. They care about their own interests at the expense of the rest of the world.

Have you ever heard of the Sykes-Picot agreement that is at the root of many of the problems in the Middle East?

[Kobe Bryant]

Exactly this:

https://x.com/Mr_Andrew_Fox/status/1822324265552683434

Updated

[Sammy82]

Updated

Kein Yirbu

[yungermanchik]

'כן יאבדו כל־אויביך ה

[imayid2]

Looking more and more likely that they are aiming for a Tisha B’av attack due to it’s historical significance?

https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-could-attack-israel-less-than-24-hours-sources-say-western-powers-issue-tehran-warning

[mevinyavin]

Iran has started prepping drones like they did in April:
Iran has prepped its missile and drone units, similarly to steps taken before Tehran’s unprecedented attack on Israel in April, according to senior officials in Washington and Jerusalem quoted by Israeli journalist Barak Ravid.

In a post on X, Ravid writes that the officials stressed that neither Israel nor the US can predict the exact timing of the retaliation attack that Iran has threatened for the killing of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran last month.

Ravid also quotes a senior Israeli official as saying, “The Iranians openly signal (on the ground) their determination to carry out a significant attack in addition to their public statements that the attack will exceed the one they carried out in April. Iranian public statements do not reflect any retreat.”

[yelped]

While I've argued against Eylon's secular Zionist outlook before, he is completely right here. I believe he is referring mostly to people like Gallant for stabbing Israel in the back while they are the most vulnerable for "political reasons (aka current WH admin wants Bibi out so they could install a puppet like him), but also in part to the anti Chareidi incitement.

https://x.com/EylonALevy/status/1822987896531394705