Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread

[AsherO]

An elephant skin is like butterfly wings compared to his skin.

Part of why I think he’s some sort of sociopath/narcissist.

[AsherO]

How do you think the Israelis are able to bomb in Syria whenever they feel the need? There's absolutely no way this isn't coordinated with the Russians who have significant assets in Syria.

Geopolitics is weird like that: the Russians might support Assad, who supports Iran-Hezbollah, but also tolerate Israel’s anti-Hezbollah bombing as long as it doesn’t hit their own assets.

[ExGingi]

Geopolitics is weird like that: the Russians might support Assad, who supports Iran-Hezbollah, but also tolerate Israel’s anti-Hezbollah bombing as long as it doesn’t hit their own assets.

And the Israelis probably prefer to have Assad remain in power rather than having a Lybia type mess at its border.

“France has no friends, only interests.” —  Charles de Gaulle

[ExGingi]

Warfare in Peacetime Proxies and State Powers is published by the Marine Corps University Press.

There's lots of information there, including an eye opening chapter on Iran and Hezbullah.

[ExGingi]

Part of why I think he’s some sort of sociopath/narcissist.

Is that true of all people who serve in top military commando units? I would think that tough skin is a prerequisite in those kinds of units.

[AsherO]

Is that true of all people who serve in top military commando units? I would think that tough skin is a prerequisite in those kinds of units.

To this degree:

An elephant skin is like butterfly wings compared to his skin.

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[EliJelly]

Seriously? Gallant? When did he take a stand that prioritized life-saving military operations more so than Bibi? He was literally an operative for the US administration embedded in the Israeli decision making team.

@ExGingi , maybe Gallant is still around and let him tell you his side of the story.

https://crownheights.info/chabad-news/888683/former-israeli-defense-minister-yoav-gallant-visits-770-during-kinus-hashluchim/

https://collive.com/former-israeli-defense-minister-galant-visits-770/

[Kobe Bryant]

2 Rockets fired towards Har Dov.

[Kobe Bryant]

2 Rockets fired towards Har Dov.

There needs to be a severe and disproportionate response!

[Moshe Green]

2 Rockets fired towards Har Dov.

There needs to be a severe and disproportionate response!

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cease%20fire
ceasefire
noun
cease·​fire ˈsēs-ˈfi(-ə)r
variants or less commonly cease-fire
pluralceasefires also cease-fires
1
: a military order to cease firing
2
: a suspension of active hostilities

[3 : In Israel this usually refers to less then 10 rockets or missiles fired each day, but can occasionally be up to 50 or even more]

They get to shoot another 8

[ExGingi]

There needs to be a severe and disproportionate response!

Indeed

[aygart]

There needs to be a severe and disproportionate response!

[yfr bachur]

Get out of your EC people!
The news is full of alleged Israeli violations of the ceasefire

They aint stopping, and we aint stopping

[shapsam]

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1863658907438088266

[yitzgar]

Get out of your EC people!
The news is full of alleged Israeli violations of the ceasefire

They aint stopping, and we aint stopping

Did Israel violate it first? That's the impression you get from the news

[yfr bachur]

Did Israel violate it first? That's the impression you get from the news

Probably depends on whose ceasefire agreement document you have - Israels or Bidens 

[EliJelly]

Did Israel violate it first? That's the impression you get from the news

Depends what you classify as a violation but the accusations on Israeli violations were already before this Har Dov attack.   

[Ergel]

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1863658907438088266

I think this actually hinders the release of the hostages, at least in the short term. Now Biden is disincentivized to achieve the release of the hostages because it will anyways be attributed to Trump

[Willie]

I think this actually hinders the release of the hostages, at least in the short term. Now Biden is disincentivized to achieve the release of the hostages because it will anyways be attributed to Trump

Ya bidens really been getting a lot accomplished in this regard, if only trump wouldnt get in the way he'd have the hostages out already (sarcasm)

[aygart]

I think this actually hinders the release of the hostages, at least in the short term. Now Biden is disincentivized to achieve the release of the hostages because it will anyways be attributed to Trump

Meh it would still be a Biden score with a Trump assist.