Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread

[stooges44]

And then there's this: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/18/israel-gaza-hamas-palestinians

[Saulius]

I can't even fathom what they're going through. Kfar Aza is across the road. No doubt entire families of close friends were wiped out. I can't bring myself to ask them for the gory details when they haven't volunteered them.

There is this Wikipedia draft without sources
https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%98%D7%99%D7%95%D7%98%D7%94:%D7%A7%D7%A8%D7%91_%D7%A1%D7%A2%D7%93

[AMH]

[ExGingi]

This time it's easy for everyone. English subtitles (I didn't check for accuracy, too small for me to read on a phone).

[TimT]

https://twitter.com/HilzFuld/status/1714875768482709951

[Savingsbeast]

I applaud Rep Ilhan Omar for her retraction of her initial tweet on the Gaza Hospital bombing.

That's not an endorsement of her stance but, given her community and affiliation, I do think it takes courage to do the right thing.

https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1714802305432682668

[zale]

I applaud Rep Ilhan Omar for her retraction of her initial tweet on the Gaza Hospital bombing.

That's not an endorsement of her stance but, given her community and affiliation, I do think it takes courage to do the right thing.

https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1714802305432682668

Is this where the goal posts are now? Applauding her because she retracted a false statement?

[ExGingi]

I applaud Rep Ilhan Omar for her retraction of her initial tweet on the Gaza Hospital bombing.

That's not an endorsement of her stance but, given her community and affiliation, I do think it takes courage to do the right thing.

https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1714802305432682668

Hardly a retraction.

At best this is a reporting of some facts (IDF denied, US Intel assessment that it was not Israel).

And ends off with:
https://twitter.com/ilhanmn/status/1714802307819593741

[TimT]

She leaves the original tweet up, is calling for an independent investigation, & doesn’t condemn Islamic Jihad.
This was never about the poor innocent palestinian, it’s about hatred for Israel.

[ExGingi]

https://twitter.com/einatwilf/status/1714897016893940078?s=46

[ExGingi]

https://twitter.com/eylonalevy/status/1714888126756274448

[Yehuda57]

I applaud Rep Ilhan Omar for her retraction of her initial tweet on the Gaza Hospital bombing.

I think you need to look up what the word retraction means.

[Yehuda57]

I think you need to look up what the word retraction means.

Also note the language of "our office" on a personal account that usually uses personal language. May seem like semantics, but as a copywriter, I'm sure that was very deliberate.

[yfr bachur]

Also note the language of "our office" on a personal account that usually uses personal language. May seem like semantics, but as a copywriter, I'm sure that was very deliberate.

So she's not anti semitic, she just employs anti semites...
Whe should demand that she fire them

 

[ExGingi]

https://twitter.com/drrafikishon/status/1714898980222435554?s=46

[liosac]

What is frightening is that the thrust of the attack and casualties were by a shabbos desecrating music, drug and alcohol party celebrated by thousands.

I didn’t realize, and I’m sure many others don’t either, that the focal point of the celebration was a giant silver Buddha statue that the celebrants were dancing under.

“Videos show young Israelis dancing to trance music under a giant Buddha statue and prayer flags around dawn — right around when festivalgoer Eliav Klein said he saw rockets launched from Gaza, startling everyone.”

“Amid the fairy lights, giant Buddha statue and the waving of stuffed monkeys on sticks, they danced to the pounding psy trance rhythms.”



This uncannily sounds like it is straight out of Tanach.

And thousands of celebrants were joyously dancing around the avoda zara and Hashem sent the פלישתים  from עזה into their camp ויכם מכה רבה.

Actual Avoda Zara in Eretz Yisrael is exceedingly rare nowadays and to see the worst massacre in Israel in likely hundreds of years strike such a celebration has to have significance.

For us perhaps one message is to work on our belief that Hashem is a כל יכול and that nothing takes place in this world that is not controlled, planned and orchestrated by him; the היפך of עבודה זרה. This might mean focusing less on the minute by minute of the daily news cycle and to stop putting stock in world leaders or the media and realize הוא עשה ועושה ויעשה את כל המעשים.

[CountValentine]

Premier League makes decision on Israel and Palestine flags at matches
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/soccer/premier-league-makes-decision-on-israel-and-palestine-flags-at-matches/ar-AA1iuP16?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=6b55d88cd2ee4b13b8cb8e937fddc1d1&ei=49

[aygart]

Hardly a retraction.

At best this is a reporting of some facts (IDF denied, US Intel assessment that it was not Israel).

And ends off with:
https://twitter.com/ilhanmn/status/1714802307819593741

Is she calling for the prosecution of PIJ for war crimes?

[Alexsei]

Is she calling for the prosecution of PIJ for war crimes?

Did she tweet anything about the massacre? Did she tweet anything about the rockets that hit hospitals within Israel?

I do not applaud her for conditioning us to accept her deliberate actions as if she regrets them. We all know she doesn't.

Her allegiance is not to the country she was elected for. There should be legislation to force lawmakers like her and her squad buddies to resign.

[CountValentine]

Is she calling for the prosecution of PIJ for war crimes?

She is calling it a war crime.