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Author Topic: Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread  (Read 1505534 times)

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2320 on: October 19, 2023, 10:18:24 AM »
Anyone with an update at the "attacked Gaza hospital with 500 dead"? What is the situation with the wounded?
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2321 on: October 19, 2023, 10:19:07 AM »
You're allowed to indiscriminately fire rockets at a civilian population in war?

Whag EXg seems to be suggesting is that since the IJ didn’t target the hospital then the hospital hit wasn’t a war crime since it didn’t target those civilians.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2322 on: October 19, 2023, 10:19:53 AM »
You're allowed to indiscriminately fire rockets at a civilian population in war?
Thats SOP

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2323 on: October 19, 2023, 10:20:28 AM »
Whag EXg seems to be suggesting is that since the IJ didn’t target the hospital then the hospital hit wasn’t a war crime since it didn’t target those civilians.
Sure, but how is it not a war crime regardless?

Funny how that gets lost in this whole discussion because the world has taken it for granted.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2324 on: October 19, 2023, 10:22:23 AM »
Can it be a war crime if it was an accident? I took it as it can only be a war crime if it was a deliberate shot by Israel. Don't hold your breath for that independent investigation and a follow up from her after that, her mission was accomplished and as Hamas's North American public relations Chief she'd very much like to move on to the next propaganda scam
I am not hold my breath for anything.
Yes, it is a war crime no matter who is responsible (playing her game). Let's say it was an accident. Shooting a rocket to kill civilians in Israel is a war crime. Saying oops we killed are own people by accident would still make it a war crime.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2325 on: October 19, 2023, 10:27:08 AM »
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2326 on: October 19, 2023, 10:29:05 AM »
This rocket is only 1 of many thousands of rockets raining down on Israeli cities daily. The world only cares about this one because it landed on palestinians instead of its intended target. Nobody cares if it hits Israeli hospitals, kindergartens, or private homes.
Everybody was hoping to make Israel look like monsters.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2327 on: October 19, 2023, 10:31:28 AM »
I am not hold my breath for anything.
Yes, it is a war crime no matter who is responsible (playing her game). Let's say it was an accident. Shooting a rocket to kill civilians in Israel is a war crime. Saying oops we killed are own people by accident would still make it a war crime.

Yet nobody has any hope at all that any tribunal would prosecute them for it and knows very well that only Israeli accidents would get prosecuted.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2328 on: October 19, 2023, 10:31:46 AM »
The world only cares about this one because it landed on palestinians instead of its intended target. Nobody cares if it hits Israeli hospitals, kindergartens, or private homes.
Everybody was hoping to make Israel look like monsters.
You think these constant posts condemning the whole world are helpful?
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2329 on: October 19, 2023, 10:32:59 AM »
You're allowed to indiscriminately fire rockets at a civilian population in war?

I am not surprised that @AsherO didn't pick up on the sarcasm as I didn't put a /s but I thought you would have picked up on it.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2330 on: October 19, 2023, 10:34:25 AM »
I am not surprised that @AsherO didn't pick up on the sarcasm as I didn't put a /s but I thought you would have picked up on it.
With so many off the wall posts in this thread it will be extremely hard to pick up on /s.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2331 on: October 19, 2023, 10:34:47 AM »
I am not surprised that @AsherO didn't pick up on the sarcasm as I didn't put a /s but I thought you would have picked up on it.

I hope it isn’t contagious :P
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2332 on: October 19, 2023, 10:38:25 AM »
I am not surprised that @AsherO didn't pick up on the sarcasm as I didn't put a /s but I thought you would have picked up on it.
Meh. Separate point that hasn't been stressed enough.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2334 on: October 19, 2023, 10:44:29 AM »
You think these constant posts condemning the whole world are helpful?
Makes zero difference. Not that I care. They’ve been funding these barbarians for decades while condemning Israel at every turn.

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« Reply #2335 on: October 19, 2023, 10:47:08 AM »
Makes zero difference. Not that I care. They’ve been funding these barbarians for decades while condemning Israel at every turn.

And continue to do so.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2336 on: October 19, 2023, 10:48:29 AM »
Since when is a malfunction a war crime?

It wasn't even fired from within a living civilian population. It was fired from a cemetery.
How many of the "approximately 477" deaths were from civilian voters in the cemetery?
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2337 on: October 19, 2023, 10:49:03 AM »
You think these constant posts condemning the whole world are helpful?
We're venting. Duh
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2338 on: October 19, 2023, 10:49:43 AM »
You think these constant posts condemning the whole world are helpful?
Welcome to our world, this is the reality we live in, we lived it in 1940 and we're living it again in 2023......

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2339 on: October 19, 2023, 10:52:48 AM »
You think these constant posts condemning the whole world are helpful?

key difference is being emotionally involved or not
that is the line that separates