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Author Topic: Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread  (Read 1452181 times)

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2940 on: October 23, 2023, 03:51:08 PM »
@EliJelly Please move this discussion out of this thread. We all have complaints about how Israel is run, but that is not a topic for this thread.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2941 on: October 23, 2023, 03:51:58 PM »
Any aid sent they will try and steal what they can but:

FWIU under international law Israel is allowed to curtail aid if it’s expected to be intercepted by Hamas. They don’t have to supply the enemy.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2942 on: October 23, 2023, 03:54:44 PM »
FWIU under international law Israel is allowed to curtail aid if it’s expected to be intercepted by Hamas. They don’t have to supply the enemy.
What they need to do is make a decision. Is the US and other countries support worth the strings attached.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2943 on: October 23, 2023, 03:54:57 PM »
Do these rockets really use the same fuel as cars and generators?

If so I think it is a no brainer. As long as rockets are flying we can assume you still have fuel.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2944 on: October 23, 2023, 03:56:54 PM »
What they need to do is make a decision. Is the US and other countries support worth the strings attached.

What does this particular decision have go do with whether other countries are involved? Do you have any reason to believe the US disagreed with the decision?

I agree with you they’d be better off if they decided not to give a d*mn, sadly I don’t think it’ll happen.
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« Reply #2945 on: October 23, 2023, 03:58:01 PM »
Do these rockets really use the same fuel as cars and generators?

If so I think it is a no brainer. As long as rockets are flying we can assume you still have fuel.
I am guessing "you" means Hamas? What about the hospitals?
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2946 on: October 23, 2023, 03:58:12 PM »
Do these rockets really use the same fuel as cars and generators?

If so I think it is a no brainer. As long as rockets are flying we can assume you still have fuel.

Not the rockets themselves but the rocket launching operation, transporting missles/launchers,  generators for any electronics involved, etc.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2947 on: October 23, 2023, 04:00:27 PM »
I am guessing "you" means Hamas? What about the hospitals?

Hospitals should check the basement, should be plenty of fuel there.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2948 on: October 23, 2023, 04:01:12 PM »
Do I need to to say the Holocaust was also part of Hashem's "master plan" or you can figure it out yourself?

No need to say anything it just lookd like you had some parts figured out.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2949 on: October 23, 2023, 04:01:34 PM »
We all know how this works. Look at the hostages.
US will know ask/suggest/pressure Israel for more time to get more hostages back.

Fuel for the hospitals to save lives will be no different.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2950 on: October 23, 2023, 04:04:21 PM »
Time for the US & UN to start pressuring Egypt & Jordan.
The billions & billions Egypt gets should also have strings attached.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2951 on: October 23, 2023, 04:05:47 PM »
So they have a suspect ?
Not according to the reports I saw. What I saw is that they "have several people of interest". One has to ask, how could they rule out antisemitism without knowing who the suspect is?

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« Reply #2952 on: October 23, 2023, 04:07:58 PM »
Not according to the reports I saw. What I saw is that they "have several people of interest". One has to ask, how could they rule out antisemitism without knowing who the suspect is?
Because they are not telling us everything?
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« Reply #2953 on: October 23, 2023, 04:09:16 PM »
The billions & billions Egypt gets should also have strings attached.
I believe they were involved in this released.
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« Reply #2954 on: October 23, 2023, 04:10:12 PM »
I believe they were involved in this released.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2955 on: October 23, 2023, 04:10:28 PM »
Fuel for the hospitals to save lives will be no different.
If Israel knew that the fuel would be used by hospitals to save lives, I understand what you're saying.
Unfortunately, Hamas controls the strip and will use the fuel for terrorism.

Plus, based on Hamas' activity, it seems that they have plenty of fuel. They are the local government and are directing the fuel that they do have to terrorism and not to hospitals.

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« Reply #2956 on: October 23, 2023, 04:11:16 PM »
One has to ask, how could they rule out antisemitism without knowing who the suspect is?
One need not ask, we know how this works.

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« Reply #2957 on: October 23, 2023, 04:13:06 PM »
Lol
GAZA/JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The armed wing of the Palestinian Hamas militant group said on Monday it had released two more female civilian captives on health grounds in response to Egyptian-Qatari mediation efforts, and a source told Reuters they were elderly Israelis.
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« Reply #2958 on: October 23, 2023, 04:14:32 PM »
GAZA/JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The armed wing of the Palestinian Hamas militant group said on Monday it had released two more female civilian captives on health grounds in response to Egyptian-Qatari mediation efforts, and a source told Reuters they were elderly Israelis.
If that’s what you call “strings attached” Israel was also involved.

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« Reply #2959 on: October 23, 2023, 04:17:21 PM »
If Israel knew that the fuel would be used by hospitals to save lives, I understand what you're saying.
Unfortunately, Hamas controls the strip and will use the fuel for terrorism.

Plus, based on Hamas' activity, it seems that they have plenty of fuel. They are the local government and are directing the fuel that they do have to terrorism and not to hospitals.
This is what you are going to see 24/7 pretty soon: Dwindling fuel supplies for Gaza’s hospital generators put premature babies in incubators at risk or Hospitals across Gaza expected to have 24 hours of fuel left.
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