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Author Topic: Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread  (Read 1451408 times)

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2960 on: October 23, 2023, 04:17:53 PM »
Also, wouldn't it be wise of Hamas to return the woman, children, elderly etc. That would gain them so much points in the world if they attempt to portray to the world that they are not here to kill rather just fighting for a liberation and get try to get backing.
Maybe they read DDF

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2961 on: October 23, 2023, 04:22:40 PM »
Seems like entire 'ground invasion' is a bluff/ credible threat to use for negotiations.
(disclaimer - fog of war etc.)

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2962 on: October 23, 2023, 04:25:35 PM »
Seems like entire 'ground invasion' is a bluff/ credible threat to use for negotiations.
(disclaimer - fog of war etc.)

If Israel endeavors to destroy Hamas infrastructure (including tunnels) they must enter Gaza for a ground assult, so I don’t think it’s a bluff.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2963 on: October 23, 2023, 04:28:18 PM »
Sorry, Lot wasn’t Jewish so you can’t use that one. He only distanced himself because even after all his efforts on Lot’s behalf, Lot’s shepards were still stealing.

Avrom was literally instructed by nevua to distance himself from his family.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2964 on: October 23, 2023, 04:29:13 PM »
If Israel endeavors to destroy Hamas infrastructure (including tunnels) they must enter Gaza for a ground assult, so I don’t think it’s a bluff.
They have nothing that penetrates into the tunnels?
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2965 on: October 23, 2023, 04:31:02 PM »
They have nothing that penetrates into the tunnels?

Such munitions are likely to cause much more significant casualties. They are also much more localized compared to gassing/flooding the tunnels.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2966 on: October 23, 2023, 04:44:00 PM »
This is what you are going to see 24/7 pretty soon: Dwindling fuel supplies for Gaza’s hospital generators put premature babies in incubators at risk or Hospitals across Gaza expected to have 24 hours of fuel left.
Sounds very dangerous. Why wouldn't the local government in Gaza direct some fuel to the hospitals? 

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2967 on: October 23, 2023, 04:45:21 PM »
Why wouldn't the local government in Gaza direct some fuel to the hospitals?
Runs contrary to their Charter.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2968 on: October 23, 2023, 04:46:05 PM »
Sounds very dangerous. Why wouldn't the local government in Gaza direct some fuel to the hospitals?
You being sarcastic?
Who do you think the local government is?
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2969 on: October 23, 2023, 04:51:28 PM »
They have nothing that penetrates into the tunnels?

According to a video posted previously, no. Entering Gaza will be an unmitigated disaster.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2970 on: October 23, 2023, 04:53:20 PM »
unless they use bunker busters which would need approval from US so back to sq1
https://breakingdefense.com/2021/10/israel-to-request-americas-new-gbu-72-bunker-buster-bomb/

If Israel endeavors to destroy Hamas infrastructure (including tunnels) they must enter Gaza for a ground assult, so I don’t think it’s a bluff.

They have nothing that penetrates into the tunnels?

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2972 on: October 23, 2023, 04:56:36 PM »
unless they use bunker busters which would need approval from US so back to sq1
https://breakingdefense.com/2021/10/israel-to-request-americas-new-gbu-72-bunker-buster-bomb/
They have limited effectiveness against such an elaborate labyrinth of tunnels.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2975 on: October 23, 2023, 05:18:36 PM »
This stupid ignoramus must think that “anti-semites” means hate against muslims.
Don't want to defend that stupid person, but technically, Arabs are also Semites. Semites is the term for descendants of Shaim (ben Noach). Arabs also descend from Shaim.

Yes, I know. Tomatoes are a fruit but don't put them in a fruit salad...

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2976 on: October 23, 2023, 05:26:24 PM »
Don't want to defend that stupid person, but technically, Arabs are also Semites. Semites is the term for descendants of Shaim (ben Noach). Arabs also descend from Shaim.

Yes, I know. Tomatoes are a fruit but don't put them in a fruit salad...
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2977 on: October 23, 2023, 05:26:54 PM »
They have nothing that penetrates into the tunnels?

I'm not so knowledgeable on bombs and such, but America has bunker busters that would destroy tunnels, question is whether they would give them to Israel to use considering the massive collateral damage they cause.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2978 on: October 23, 2023, 05:33:11 PM »
Give them the fuel. At some point it will happen anyway.
They’ve tried that for 20 years and look where that got us!


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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #2979 on: October 23, 2023, 05:34:23 PM »
Don't want to defend that stupid person, but technically, Arabs are also Semites. Semites is the term for descendants of Shaim (ben Noach). Arabs also descend from Shaim.

Yes, I know. Tomatoes are a fruit but don't put them in a fruit salad...

Even if it’s technically true, it isn’t what she was saying
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