Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread

[S209]

Hashem Yerachem. I simply didn’t believe what I was hearing over YT. Somehow, the truth is even worse.

[JMHO]

I heard bits and pieces over YT but checking the news tonight is unreal. It sounds like a literal Kinah from Tisha B'Av.

Please daven.

[dovy2]

It is extremely hard to find a proper one.

Let's see if the media keep this new style (it tallying all deaths together) for future conflicts

[CountValentine]

Let's see if the media keep this new style (it tallying all deaths together) for future conflicts

I would say over 90% are not tallying them together that I have seen so far.

[ilherman]

Does Israel have any plan going forward? Or are they still just as confused as we all are?

Did they eliminate any senior Hamas figures?

Do we have any idea how the Israeli intelligence agencies missed this?

[~King Lake~]

Like many others i have family visiting that are desperate to get back!

can we put together a charter flight?

I’d think flying out with ELAL is your best/safest option (if any tickets are available)

[CountValentine]

Does Israel have any plan going forward? Or are they still just as confused as we all are?

Did they eliminate any senior Hamas figures?

It takes time. Before long the headline will be Israel is going too far.

[Sam 77]

I have flight through DC on Wednesday to tlv

[yuneeq]

Do we have any idea how the Israeli intelligence agencies missed this?

More than that, where is the IDF in the videos? Why was there no one near the border or responding to these towns?

[liosac]

More than that, where is the IDF in the videos? Why was there no one near the border or responding to these towns?

“Many Hamas leaders were unaware of the plans and, while training, the 1,000 fighters deployed in the assault had no inkling of the exact purpose of the exercises, the source added.

When the day came, the operation was divided into four parts, the Hamas source said, describing the various elements.

The first move was a barrage of 3,000 rockets fired from Gaza that coincided with incursions by fighters who flew hang gliders over the border, the source said. Israel has previously said 2,500 rockets were fired at first.

Once the fighters on hang-gliders were on the ground, they secured the terrain so an elite commando unit could storm the fortified electronic and cement wall that divides Gaza from the settlements and which was built by Israel to prevent infiltration.

The fighters used explosives to breach the barriers and then sped across on motorbikes. Bulldozers widened the gaps and more fighters entered in four-wheel drives, scenes that witnesses described.

'HUGE FAILURE'

A commando unit attacked the Israeli army's southern Gaza headquarters and jammed its communications, preventing personnel from calling commanders or each other, the source said.

The final part involved moving hostages to Gaza, mostly achieved early in the attack, the source close to Hamas said.”

[imayid2]

Does Israel have any plan going forward? Or are they still just as confused as we all are?

Very tough situation with all those hostages

[liosac]

The Simchas Torah war is just about 50 years to the exact day of the start of the Yom Kippur war.

[dovy2]

I would say over 90% are not tallying them together that I have seen so far.

I'm referring to the headlines.  They are almost all tallying it together so that the standard reader can think Israel killed that many Palestinians

[CountValentine]

I'm referring to the headlines. 

Not what I have seen. I expect that to change.

[ilherman]

It takes time. Before long the headline will be Israel is going too far.

While revenge won't do anything to bring the lost back, I'm sure people wanna see accountability. Question is if and how fast will it come. With Hamas holding so many hostages that may complicate things as well.

And let's not forget Israel unlike Hamas tries to avoid killing civilians. I've see some media outlets reporting about some unfortunate families in Gaza who had to vacate their buildings with only moments notice from the IDF and that they don't have where to go right now...

I'm sure the 700+ Israelis killed would have loved the chance of leaving their houses with just their clothes in order to save their lives.

[yuneeq]

The Simchas Torah war is just about 50 years to the exact day of the start of the Yom Kippur war.

Not a coincidence

[CountValentine]

While revenge won't do anything to bring the lost back, I'm sure people wanna see accountability. Question is if and how fast will it come. With Hamas holding so many hostages that may complicate things as well.

And let's not forget Israel unlike Hamas tries to avoid killing civilians. I've see some media outlets reporting about some unfortunate families in Gaza who had to vacate their buildings with only moments notice from the IDF and that they don't have where to go right now...

I'm sure the 700+ Israelis killed would have loved the chance of leaving their houses with just their clothes in order to save their lives.

9/11 response didn't come the next day, and this won't either. They should take their time and get it done right.

[Euclid]

9/11 response.... get it done right....

Oof

[jj1000]

Any Chance Israel Attacks Iran? Would likely need Biden's blessing first?

[CountValentine]

Any Chance Israel Attacks Iran? Would likely need Biden's blessing first?

I would say too early for that.