Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread

[yelped]

https://twitter.com/Israel/status/1719395000084042237

[JMHO]

Keep watching as it is better at the end.

Not cherry-picking. That is the first two paragraphs. It the rest of the article is the same crap I don't want to waste my time.

[WayBackMachine]

from page 218 what did i miss, what went on today? news only please

[CountValentine]

from page 218 what did i miss, what went on today? news only please

Report of first casualties for Israel. 2 soldiers were killed.
Large blast at a refugee camp that took out a high-ranking Hamas leader. Large amount of damage and no death count so far.

[Essen est zich]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Ramallah_lynching

I suppose that's what they were going for, completely forgetting what the image would remind Jews of.

This is my first time hearing about this.

[Dan]

i only watched a few minutes of it, but its so apparent how skewed and misleading this is.

Typical underinformed Gen Z'er.

https://twitter.com/wendoverpro/status/1719438521583456670

[TimT]

https://twitter.com/dansenor/status/1719506019351462385

[Essen est zich]

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndny/pr/cornell-student-arrested-making-online-threats-jewish-students-campus
Northern District of New York
SYRACUSE, NEW YORK – Patrick Dai, age 21, a junior at Cornell University who is originally from Pittsford, New York, was arrested today on a federal criminal complaint charging him with posting threats to kill or injure another using interstate communications. The announcement was made by United States Attorney Carla B. Freedman; Alfred Watson, Acting Special Agent in Charge of the Albany Field Office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI); New York State Police Acting Superintendent Dominick L. Chiumento; and Cornell University Police Chief Anthony Bellamy.

[Dan]

I'd bet the house they didn't forget anything. That's exactly the image they were going for

Would be a whole new low in that case

[TimT]

Would be a whole new low in that case

Praising & justifying hamas for raping children & dismembering & burning babies alive was the whole new low.

[ExGingi]

This is my first time hearing about this.

I guess you were too young then.

That image and the horrific story can't escape my mind, even if not with the full details.

That, and the story of Nachshon Wachsman hy"d (brings tears to my eyes just mentioning his name).

And from the Wikipedia page comes:

Jihad Yarmur was convicted of the killing of Nachshon Wachsman. He was released in October 2011 as one of 1,027 prisoners exchanged for captive Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit.[13]

😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

[Yehuda57]

This is my first time hearing about this.

Hard to imagine that such a formulative part of my life isn't even known by people not that much younger than me.

[ExGingi]

Hard to imagine that such a formulative part of my life isn't even known by people not that much younger than me.

I guess that is a reality of life (and has always been the case). There's a huge difference between a 15 or 16 year old and someone just a few years younger (especially when it pertains to events on the other side of the globe).

[Dan]

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2UWnwRXoNNdPKoHzpwQ6pE?si=nhAdtDrTRkKBwQnDDWhk1Q
Rabbi Manis Friedman on the war

[TimT]

NSFW language :

https://twitter.com/AvivaKlompas/status/1717944058075603080

https://twitter.com/HaMeturgeman/status/1719533512909332536

[Mmz1534]

i only watched a few minutes of it, but its so apparent how skewed and misleading this is.

see 9:08

the reason Hamas hits civilian targets instead of military targets permitted under international law, is because they have simple unguided missiles!!!

 

[ExGingi]

https://x.com/dredycohen/status/1719316079095210082

I think he's jealous of Yusian's rising star.

TBH, I have seen quite a few of his Arabic tweets and his language seems like that of a young teenager (disclaimer: I am unfamiliar with Arabic culture to be qualified to comment, just the way it seems to me, though I recently saw a tweet by Nassim Taleb ridiculing/questioning the soundness of a tweet by Cohen.)

[Essen est zich]

Hard to imagine that such a formulative part of my life isn't even known by people not that much younger than me.

I guess that is a reality of life (and has always been the case). There's a huge difference between a 15 or 16 year old and someone just a few years younger (especially when it pertains to events on the other side of the globe).

The fact is that the "younger generation" doesn't know told about these "incidents".

I know b"eh I will tell my children when they grow up about the History of Israel.

What would you suggest? I don't see current at least chabad schools/mesivta/zals teaching the history of Israel.

[ExGingi]

The fact is that the "younger generation" doesn't know told about these "incidents".

I know b"eh I will tell my children when they grow up about the History of Israel.

What would you suggest? I don't see current at least chabad schools/mesivta/zals teaching the history of Israel.

I don't find anything wrong with you being unaware of this prior to today. It's just as @Yehuda57 pointed out, there's a generational gap. I also don't know how many holocaust survivors you personally knew. There are certain things that are just something one experiences. See @CountValentine's comment about visiting Auschwitz.

And to your final question, I think the focus should be exactly as it is today in Chabad Yeshivos: spreading good and light, not dwelling (too much) on the negative (and past).

[Yehuda57]

The fact is that the "younger generation" doesn't know told about these "incidents".

I know b"eh I will tell my children when they grow up about the History of Israel.

What would you suggest? I don't see current at least chabad schools/mesivta/zals teaching the history of Israel.

I've never shown that picture to my kids and can't imagine a scenario that I would. I wasn't saying it as a critique, just something that seemed amazing to me. That picture is seared into my brain. As a kid, seeing a mob cheering at someone who literally ripped another human to death with his bare hands was mind altering, and not in a positive way.