Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread

[Kobe Bryant]

openly admitting that they employ Hamas members

https://twitter.com/UN_News_Centre/status/1719797436275740784

You have this wrong. it is Hamas who is employing the UNRWA.

[CountValentine]

Calling a city in Gaza a “refugee camp” is an absolute joke. just like the UN.

Is IDF a joke? They also called it until tonight.
So before coming after me you might want to send the IDF a memo.

[Traveler718]

The 32 innocent children being held as hostage:

[Dan]

How many posts have there been about CNN this and CNN that? If they would just watch these two hours each day they would get real info. Instead, all I keep hearing is MSM but still have not seen one post that says who that is.

I only quoted you because your posts carry weight and hopefully some will start watching at least these two guys.

To be fair, most of the other hosts have slowly become more and more unwatchable over that same time period and keep repeating truly dumb lies, even when rebunked.

And the website is clearly more progressive than Cooper or Tapper.

[CountValentine]

To be fair, most of the other hosts have slowly become more and more unwatchable over that same time period and keep repeating truly dumb lies, even when rebunked.

I have seen a big changed in others reporting (Wolf & Kaitlan) these last two days after the refugee strikes.

[Euclid]

the refugee strikes.

Is IDF a joke? They also called it until tonight.
So before coming after me you might want to send the IDF a memo.

Maybe they were refugee camps 3 generations ago and that's why they're referred to as refugee camps. But at this point if the people have been living there for generations then it ain't a "camp for refugees".

Kinda how the people on Indian reservations don't have teepees and use horses anymore.

ETA: *and they're still called reservations

[Dan]

I have seen a big changed in others reporting (Wolf & Kaitlan) these last two days after the refugee strikes.

Wolf has been mostly rubbish since the beginning. Haven't learned much of anything from him.

Most hosts are now spewing nonsense about why go south when no place in Gaza is safe, when the south and more specifically the southwest is clearly much safer and is where Israel has said to go.

They're saying people there don't know safe routes, when Israel has repeatedly dropped leaflets in Arabic with maps on how to get to safe zones.

They're calling this a massacre, despite not knowing how many people were killed and how many were civilians or Hamas.

Any able-bodied person still in northern Gaza after 3 weeks of warnings is likely complicit with Hamas. 2 million people have fled south, but a quarter million stayed behind. What other reason would true civilians stay in an active battlefield?

[Sammy82]

How many posts have there been about CNN this and CNN that? If they would just watch these two hours each day they would get real info. Instead, all I keep hearing is MSM but still have not seen one post that says who that is.

I only quoted you because your posts carry weight and hopefully some will start watching at least these two guys.

I can't speak for everybody here but some of us (myself included) don't have time to watch TV. Between work, family, etc.
News articles and short clips are much better for our lifestyle. The downside is that everything is delayed then as the clips don't hit youtube, WhatsApp, etc. until later on, especially since CNN is a cable channel, and charges for online, realtime access. And its only clips so definitely easy for things to not be shown in content.
Not saying that this is good (to get a practical news report), just stating the facts.
I, for one, appreciate when you point out stuff from CNN as we don't have easy access to it.

[Dan]

I can't speak for everybody here but some of us (myself included) don't have time to watch TV. Between work, family, etc.

I'm not a TV or news watcher other than sports, but for better or worse I've had the news on in the background since S"T.

[AsherO]

@Traveler718 i think you intended to paste a different tweet for the backlash against antisemitism at law schools

https://twitter.com/Elad_Si/status/1719848895805550723

Poor Baskin was duped into thinking Hamed had any humanity in him and cared for Shalit to be returned. Hamed didn’t change, he was this way all along.

[CountValentine]

Kinda how the people on Indian reservations don't have teepees and use horses anymore.

...but are still called reservations.

[Sammy82]

I'm not a TV or news watcher other than sports, but for better or worse I've had the news on in the background since S"T.

Not everybody is self-employed working at a desk.
I also think that as it is, I'm too busy 'catching up' on every little update on the war. It sometimes gets depressing (momentarily) from being fed some much information, ongoing. Having it in the background would make it worse. Again, this is for me personally.

[Euclid]

...but are still called reservations.

That was my point...?

[CountValentine]

That was my point...?

Probably and I just missed it.

[Dan]

Not everybody is self-employed working at a desk.
I also think that as it is, I'm too busy 'catching up' on every little update on the war. It sometimes gets depressing (momentarily) from being fed some much information, ongoing. Having it in the background would make it worse. Again, this is for me personally.

There's less catching up when it's on in the background, but certainly it's not for everyone.

[TimT]

https://twitter.com/VP/status/1719833418869981388

[AsherO]

Any able-bodied person still in northern Gaza after 3 weeks of warnings is likely complicit with Hamas. 2 million people have fled south, but a quarter million stayed behind. What other reason would true civilians stay in an active battlefield?

Where is this 2m figure from? AP is saying 800k have fled south.

[Dan]

Where is this 2m figure from? AP is saying 800k have fled south.

2M in the south, vs ~250K thought to still be in the north.

[Euclid]

Probably and I just missed it.

Thanks - edited to make clearer

[imayid2]

Anyone have any further info about this? (click on Tweet for additional details and mareh mekomos)

https://twitter.com/FrumTikTok/status/1719736647053410361

No doubt it’s R Sorotzkin that @Saulius has been quoting. I’d want to know how many times he’s said that in the past.