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Author Topic: Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread  (Read 1059428 times)

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4700 on: November 01, 2023, 10:33:22 PM »

Is this real? Did she already announce something about antisemitism?
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4701 on: November 01, 2023, 10:37:58 PM »
No doubt it’s R Sorotzkin that @Saulius has been quoting. I’d want to know how many times he’s said that in the past.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4702 on: November 01, 2023, 10:42:05 PM »
This thread should go to Politics or another board.
 I Glace at the GD quite often to see what's new. But now I feel like DDF has there own news site running out of the GD.
Now that GD always has unread threads.
The other boards i don't glance upon unless I'm really bored. So I don't care of it shows unread.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4703 on: November 01, 2023, 10:48:02 PM »
This thread should go to Politics or another board.
 I Glace at the GD quite often to see what's new. But now I feel like DDF has there own news site running out of the GD.
Now that GD always has unread threads.
The other boards i don't glance upon unless I'm really bored. So I don't care of it shows unread.
You can “ignore” it so it won’t show unread.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4704 on: November 01, 2023, 11:01:40 PM »
Not sure if this was posted here yet

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4705 on: November 01, 2023, 11:17:22 PM »
Not sure if this was posted here yet
Hawley only cares about grandstanding. He knew before he asked that it was an ongoing investigation. Then he looks like a fool at the end.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4706 on: November 01, 2023, 11:25:39 PM »
Hawley only cares about grandstanding. He knew before he asked that it was an ongoing investigation. Then he looks like a fool at the end.

In his defense, he might actually be stupid enough not to realize that processes have to play out and you can't just fire people instantly and discuss their employment status in public hearings.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4707 on: November 01, 2023, 11:30:38 PM »
2M in the south, vs ~250K thought to still be in the north.

That makes sense considering I remember reading a ~1.1m figure for northern Gaza and ~800k fled.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4708 on: November 01, 2023, 11:30:54 PM »
In his defense, he might actually be stupid enough not to realize that processes have to play out and you can't just fire people instantly and discuss their employment status in public hearings.
Thanks for the late night laugh or did you stab me in the back and are his spokesman?  >:(
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4709 on: November 01, 2023, 11:39:05 PM »
Not sure if this was posted here yet





Off topic, but:


People who post non-business items to LinkedIn deserve to be fired. Fired for complete lack of professionalism and business skills. (And this goes for all the people currently posting pro-Israel posts too.)

If you're unable to separate your professional life from your personal views, I have low confidence in your ability to make rational and sensitive business decisions.



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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4710 on: November 01, 2023, 11:41:32 PM »


Off topic, but:


People who post non-business items to LinkedIn deserve to be fired. Fired for complete lack of professionalism and business skills. (And this goes for all the people currently posting pro-Israel posts too.)

If you're unable to separate your professional life from your personal views, I have low confidence in your ability to make rational and sensitive business decisions.



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So you prefer the US unemployment rate rise to 82%?
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4711 on: November 01, 2023, 11:43:54 PM »

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4712 on: November 01, 2023, 11:45:41 PM »
No doubt it’s R Sorotzkin that @Saulius has been quoting. I’d want to know how many times he’s said that in the past.
Indeed he confirms it is from Rav Sorotzkin.


The problem is that it appears that there is no source that says מלחמת גוג ומגוג will take place on Shmini Atzeres. The Tur תק״צ brings from Rav Hai Gaon that Gog Umagog will take place in Tishrei.


The sources that it will take place on a specific date all quote Rav Chaim Vital from the אריז״ל in ספר הליקוטים and a Mesorah from the Gaon (and a Medrash Talpios) and they both say it takes place on  Hoshana Rabbah. The Gaon further places it in the three hours prior to dawn on the night of Hoshana Rabbah.




In fact, Rav Sorotzkin actually gave a shiur on Hoshana Rabbah just before the attack, and quoted all of the above sources that have it taking place on Hoshana Rabbah!
You can listen to it on Kol halashon.
https://www.kolhalashon.com/new/Media/PlayShiur.aspx?FileName=36031731&English=True&Lang=English

(There is also the problem of the sources placing it on Motzai Shviis which Rav Sorotzkin addresses by considering Succos following Motzai Shviis to be an extension of Motzai Shviis.)

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4713 on: November 02, 2023, 12:12:29 AM »
Listening now to galei zahal
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4714 on: November 02, 2023, 12:12:59 AM »
Instead, all I keep hearing is MSM but still have not seen one post that says who that is.
Just one example: https://honestreporting.com/npr-misleads-millions-with-biased-coverage-of-israel-hamas-war/

Some of this is really 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢 material.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4716 on: November 02, 2023, 12:57:57 AM »
https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1719838951018533181

I'm awaiting a real response, not some strict warnings.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4718 on: November 02, 2023, 02:26:09 AM »
The President of the country, Yitzhak Herzog, sat with a BBC interviewer for nearly half an hour, but in the British media, which distorts the coverage of the conflict in Israel, they only aired 6 seconds when they censored the President's words about humanitarian aid to Gaza and his criticism of their coverage.

Naor Yahia, the spokesperson for President Herzog, tweeted on his X account: "Something in how the BBC interview was conducted made me think that I should have documentation of what the President says before someone tries to censor or distort... So here are the things that the BBC never wanted the world to hear."

Among other things, they cut parts where Herzog criticized the one-sided coverage of the British broadcasting corporation and segments where he explained Israel's position: "We don't want to cause suffering to civilians – we call on them to move within the Strip."

"In the past two years, I have gone to bereaved families almost every week," Herzog said in a part of the interview that was not broadcast. "These families lost their loved ones to terrorism. In the past, I said – the heart of the problem with the Palestinians is terrorism."

Regarding humanitarian aid to Gaza, Herzog described in an un-aired segment: "We dramatically increase aid to Gaza – if we didn't cut off water and electricity, they would use it to make explosives, and that's evident."

"I don't want to get into whether the BBC is objective or not," the President said. "I don't want to go there. There's a real culture of horrors that develops with a whole army called Daesh, Hamas, and Al-Qaeda. It was there on 9/11, it's in the beheadings of people in Europe, it's in the torture and what the Khawarij are doing in the south, it's in the whole region, whether we fight them or not."

"It took too long until Winston Churchill took control, after he threatened and warned against the Nazi regime. We paid the price. We allowed ceasefires again and again – and what happened? On October 7, the largest number of Jews were killed since World War II, since the Holocaust. Relatively, it's like 8 times 9/11. What else can we do? We don't want to cause suffering – we tell the citizens to move within the Strip."

Since the beginning of the war, there have been allegations about the way BBC covers the conflict. The British corporation initially refused to call Hamas terrorists and referred to them as "militant forces." After criticism within the broadcasting corporation, they decided to label Hamas as a "terror organization proscribed by the UK government and others."

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4719 on: November 02, 2023, 04:14:21 AM »


The problem is that it appears that there is no source that says מלחמת גוג ומגוג will take place on Shmini Atzeres. The Tur תק״צ brings from Rav Hai Gaon that Gog Umagog will take place in Tishrei.


The sources that it will take place on a specific date all quote Rav Chaim Vital from the אריז״ל in ספר הליקוטים and a Mesorah from the Gaon (and a Medrash Talpios) and they both say it takes place on  Hoshana Rabbah. The Gaon further places it in the three hours prior to dawn on the night of Hoshana Rabbah.


Does it mean the killing will take place or maybe the final order to attack, it is very possible they started the final preparations on YR.