Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread

[CountValentine]

In the river, in the sea?

What does this mean?

[AsherO]

In the meantime we have 2mm in the south and bombs are dropping there. Where does the 2mm go to escape being killed?

They're screwed, but less screwed than the North. IDF spokeseman have said it continuously, and I believe the fliers they dropped on Gaza said it as well, that southern Gaza is safer. t's not Israel's responsibility to ensure the safety of Gazan civillians.

[AsherO]

Does anyone here believe there will be peace after Hamas is destroyed?

Do you believe my wife will make me pancakes for breakfast tomorrow?

[sam2015]

What does this mean?

Ask the millions who are protesting Israel with the same statement?

[CountValentine]

Do you believe my wife will make me pancakes for breakfast tomorrow?

There is an extremely good possibility if the pancakes are kosher. Don't expect to get whipped butter like I get. 

Can we try and be honest for a second. Hamas is destroyed. Do you believe there will now be peace? I say no and it will only get worse unless there is an occupation.

[CountValentine]

Ask the millions who are protesting Israel with the same statement?

So you are saying it has the same meaning as those protesting?

[Just A Jew]

Can we try and be honest for a second. Hamas is destroyed. Do you believe there will now be peace? I say no and it will only get worse unless there is an occupation.

I don't think there will be peace, but I believe Israel will be much safer.

[sam2015]

So you are saying it has the same meaning as those protesting?

I don’t know what it means. So I recommended asking those that use such words.

[AsherO]

There is an extremely good possibility if the pancakes are kosher. Don't expect to get whipped butter like I get. 

Can we try and be honest for a second. Hamas is destroyed. Do you believe there will now be peace? I say no and it will only get worse unless there is an occupation.

How do you define peace? The biggest barrier to peace is shifting mindset for the Palestinians, and that’s something that isn’t Israel’s responsibility and something they cannot do alone with olive branches, gestures, unilateral concessions, patience, and self-restraint. It also doesn’t change whether eliminating Hamas is the right thing to do at this time.

[CountValentine]

I don’t know what it means. So I recommended asking those that use such words.

Now you claim you don't know anything.
What would the protesters meaning have anything to do with what I asked?

[ushdadude]

In the meantime we have 2mm in the south and bombs are dropping there. Where does the 2mm go to escape being killed?

Tunnels? Egypt?

[Pony]

Was the hospital overflowing with children, Hamas?

Source that the hospital is overflowing with children? The Hamas run "health ministry"? The same one that told us that hundreds were killed by Israel in the hospital strike?

My guess is that any women and children that didn't join the million people in south Gaza are there because they want to be there. Perhaps family members of the terrorists in the tunnels or just people dumb enough to support and listen to Hamas. But likely most of the people that have been killed in the strike were terrorists.

[CountValentine]

How do you define peace?

Anyway you want to define it so we don't have 20 pages on a definition.

[CountValentine]

Source that the hospital is overflowing with children? The Hamas run "health ministry"? The same one that told us that hundreds were killed by Israel in the hospital strike?

CNN showed a hospital and interview a couple of doctors.

[Dan]

Can we try and be honest for a second. Hamas is destroyed. Do you believe there will now be peace? I say no and it will only get worse unless there is an occupation.

It will take a truly great leader to convince them they need to forget the past and look to the future. Only once they realize Israel isn't going anywhere, can start to build a nation instead of residing in refugee camps waiting to conquer Israel.

Sadly, they have never had such a leader.

[CountValentine]

Tunnels? Egypt?

Tunnels are being bombed and Egypt won't take them.

[Dan]

CNN showed a hospital and interview a couple of doctors.

CNN has nobody in Gaza.
It's probably Al-Jazeera/Hamas licensed footage, which might be real or might be from Hamas' Pallywood productions studio.

[Just A Jew]

Does anyone here believe there will be peace after Hamas is destroyed?

There hasn't been peace in the Middle East for hundreds of years. The entire region is in a constant state of conflict. There will never be true peace, according to Western standards, and it has nothing to do with Hamas.

Here's a short list from just the Modern Era (1900ish and on):
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_modern_conflicts_in_the_Middle_East

[Euclid]

What does this mean?

Honestly was just thinking of this song and messed up the lyrics. Was a joke

[Pony]

CNN showed a hospital and interview a couple of doctors.

Any chance those doctors working in a hospital which is on top of a terrorist base may be biased and have an agenda to feed to the international media?

CNN showed a hospital overflowing with children? How many children fit in the picture?

There is no doubt that some innocent children where in harms way and tragically have been killed. But any rational person can see between the lines and knows to take any report from Gaza with a healthy dose of skepticism, even if it has been reported on CNN.