Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread

[Dan]

https://x.com/BMWK/status/1720130870864998800

Such clarity from the German vice-chancellor. I think the Hebrew subtitles are a tad better and more accurate than the English ones. Can’t say I agree with everything he said, but if you have question about what happens the day after Hamas is eradicated, this guy can give some pointers.

Excellent.

[AsherO]

Excellent.

I like his clarity on rights-but-also-responsibility, woke progressives care only about rights of protected classes, responsibilities be d*mned.

I wish guilt wasn’t a factor in Germany’s sentiment. It makes them an exception rather than something that could be the norm.

[AsherO]

In case you missed it:

https://x.com/War_Mapper/status/1720154499619135581

[AsherO]

Nice:
https://x.com/IDF/status/1720127993077510608

[Just A Jew]

https://x.com/BMWK/status/1720130870864998800

Such clarity from the German vice-chancellor. I think the Hebrew subtitles are a tad better and more accurate than the English ones. Can’t say I agree with everything he said, but if you have question about what happens the day after Hamas is eradicated, this guy can give some pointers.

Very clear and nuanced.

[Just A Jew]

Anyone have the clip of the US paratrooper giving a pep talk to his troops and Israeli troops in postable format?

[Jellybelly]

Jerry nadler voted no?!

Why you surprised?

[Jellybelly]

On AC360 now, Hamas' top-tier soldiers appear to have been killed on 10/7. The IDF has been fighting 2nd tier Hamas soldiers on the ground so far and the IDF has been surprised at how easily they were able to cover ground to fully cut off Gaza City.

Was wondering about this ever since they went into Gaza.
It couldn’t be that Hamas is at full strength as I’m sure they sent their best people in on 10/7

[Spoon]

Can anyone update on what happened today in Gaza if anything?

[yelped]

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1720192044486828108

This is not really new. The Muslims in Lebanon have had no compunctions about slaughtering Christians there for years and years already.

[iwlw2]

Any chance those doctors working in a hospital which is on top of a terrorist base may be biased and have an agenda to feed to the international media?

+1000 IINM the early news reports from both the "hospital bombing" and the "refugee camp bombing", quoted doctors from the hospitals who were the source of the "hundreds and hundreds dead overflowing the hospital" lies.

[yelped]

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1719838951018533181

I'm awaiting a real response, not some strict warnings.

Now over 40 attacks against US Forces in the Middle East without a response from our government.

[AsherO]

https://twitter.com/ameliairheart/status/1720225743047983281

Which links to this:

https://archive.ph/bd8Nf

[CountValentine]

Now over 40 attacks against US Forces in the Middle East without a response from our government.

There has been no response at all?

[AsherO]

Can anyone update on what happened today in Gaza if anything?

@Spoon https://www.idf.il/en/mini-sites/idf-newsletter-daily-summaries-of-the-hamas-israel-war/daily-recap-hamas-israel-war-november-2nd-2023-day-27/

[Spoon]

@Spoon https://www.idf.il/en/mini-sites/idf-newsletter-daily-summaries-of-the-hamas-israel-war/daily-recap-hamas-israel-war-november-2nd-2023-day-27/

Thank you.


The missiles mentioned from the Southeast and red sea area are the ones from Yemen?

[AsherO]

Thank you.


The missiles mentioned from the Southeast and red sea area are the ones from Yemen?

You’re welcome. That site has been posting daily updates straight from the IDF.

Ostensibly. There could be reasons they don’t want to make the source.

[WayBackMachine]

I love this man

https://twitter.com/RitchieTorres/status/1720166981452607925

For the first time in history, a Speaker of the House has taken a position that he will not support aid to Israel unless there are conditions.  It represents the first time in history that a House Speaker has all but endorsed conditioning aid to Israel.  This is a dangerous precedent that cannot be allowed to stand. 

When I ran for Congress, I made it crystal clear that I would oppose anything other than unconditional aid to Israel—whether the attempts at  conditioning come from the far left or from the far right. 

The cheap cynical game that Speaker Johnson is playing sets a dangerous precedent for conditioning emergency aid. It represents a dangerous politicizing of Israel in a time of war.  It represents a dangerous decision to pursue division over unity and politics over principle. 

The House should vote on a clean bill, with no poison pills, that would send an overwhelmingly bipartisan message of unconditional unity around Israel.  Our ally deserves nothing less in its moment of greatest need.

The Islamic Republic of Iran and its proxies Hezbollah and Hamas want nothing more than for the House to be dysfunctional, divided and distracted. Choosing gamesmanship over statesmanship, as Speaker Johnson has elected to do, will contribute to the further erosion of US-Israeli deterrence against common enemies.

What is the point of voting on a cynically conceived bill that is dead on arrival in the Senate and that would be vetoed by the most the pro-Israel wartime President in history—the ONLY President to travel to Israel in a time of war? 

Speaker’s Johnson’s bill would have the real-world effect of not delivering aid to Israel immediately but of delaying it indefinitely.  This, to me, is as shameful as it is senseless.

[WayBackMachine]

NikkiHaley
We have an antisemitism epidemic in our country, and Joe Biden and Kamala Harris' response is to focus on Islamophobia.

This is pathetic and completely tone deaf.

[WayBackMachine]

SpeakerJohnson

Many of my colleagues have called for a “ceasefire.”
 
Let me be clear: there was a ceasefire – before the October 7th attack.
 
We must pass aid to Israel now. Inaction is not an option.