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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5000 on: November 03, 2023, 12:24:22 PM »
Not if they only flood them 2-3 feet
That won't kill Hamas then.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5002 on: November 03, 2023, 12:26:34 PM »
Didn’t read the article, but actually thought about this yesterday. You flood it slowly. And you hope everyone comes out when the water reaches their necks. Personally don’t like it though. It’s one thing to take a chance that Hamas kills the hostages. It’s another thing to shoot and then and hope Hamas will protect them.
Also the entrance you are flooding from might be the only exit.
This would be a good idea once Hamas is eliminated, and all hostages are accounted for.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5003 on: November 03, 2023, 12:28:12 PM »
And before anyone says that Israel has a bigger obligation to the hostages. you need to remember, the IDF  are conscripts.
All countries have a bigger obligation to hostages.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5004 on: November 03, 2023, 12:29:15 PM »
https://twitter.com/TheMossadIL/status/1720444229573345566

Anyone with more info on this (DDF experts to the rescue)?

The tweet quoted has a reply with video, it’s quite gruesome
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5005 on: November 03, 2023, 12:31:17 PM »
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzKeQoHNMMB/

Sick
This is anti West in general. Someone should be fired (possibly more than someone (who let this through??)).

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5006 on: November 03, 2023, 12:31:27 PM »
Didn’t read the article, but actually thought about this yesterday. You flood it slowly. And you hope everyone comes out when the water reaches their necks. Personally don’t like it though. It’s one thing to take a chance that Hamas kills the hostages. It’s another thing to shoot and then and hope Hamas will protect them.

Do you realize we’re talking about hundreds of miles of tunnels with endless entrances?
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5007 on: November 03, 2023, 12:32:09 PM »
Also the entrance you are flooding from might be the only exit.
Might be, but we’ve heard so much about how intricate this tunnel network is, hard to believe there’s no emergency exit.

This would be a good idea once Hamas is eliminated, and all hostages are accounted for.

Yeah once this is all done with, you flood it with sewage.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5008 on: November 03, 2023, 12:33:12 PM »
Do you realize we’re talking about hundreds of miles of tunnels with endless entrances?
It is a big sea and if I recall there is a river nearby, no?
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5009 on: November 03, 2023, 12:35:46 PM »
That won't kill Hamas then.
Just flood it enough to make them unusable. That's the guy's plan anyway. Who knows

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5010 on: November 03, 2023, 12:36:14 PM »
Do you realize we’re talking about hundreds of miles of tunnels with endless entrances?
Yes. And there’s endless water in the Mediterranean. Obviously you can’t pinpoint the exact depth the water will reach, so it’s risky, hence my apprehension. But I believe it’s possible. The beauty of water here is that current and gravity will propel it through any obstacles or booby traps. So assuming the tunnels are all connected, eventually they all fill up.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5011 on: November 03, 2023, 12:37:16 PM »
Just flood it enough to make them unusable. That's the guy's plan anyway. Who knows
And destroy their supplies. Unless they have good shelving.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5013 on: November 03, 2023, 12:42:31 PM »
Yes. And there’s endless water in the Mediterranean. Obviously you can’t pinpoint the exact depth the water will reach, so it’s risky, hence my apprehension. But I believe it’s possible. The beauty of water here is that current and gravity will propel it through any obstacles or booby traps. So assuming the tunnels are all connected, eventually they all fill up.

I quoted and was replying to someone suggesting flooding them just 2-3 feet.

Keep in mind the tunnels also have steel doors throughout that can block out water, gas, or other attempts to neutralize them.
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« Reply #5014 on: November 03, 2023, 12:52:32 PM »
I quoted and was replying to someone suggesting flooding them just 2-3 feet.

Keep in mind the tunnels also have steel doors throughout that can block out water, gas, or other attempts to neutralize them.
You quoted me, must’ve been a mistake. Do we know they’re hermetically sealed or you’re assuming?

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5015 on: November 03, 2023, 12:59:30 PM »
You quoted me, must’ve been a mistake. Do we know they’re hermetically sealed or you’re assuming?

Reports from tunnel experts suggested this is something that's engineered into such tunnels.

I think it might be possible to flood some tunnels, but "just flood the tunnels" is super simplistic thinking. I did some back of the hand math and it comes out to many months of continuous pumping, not including seepage, to flood 300 miles of tunnel.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5016 on: November 03, 2023, 01:07:42 PM »
Why don't they just say yizkor 7 times

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5017 on: November 03, 2023, 01:58:49 PM »
Trey Yingst reports 'massive explosion' roughly 100 feet from his location
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trey-yingst-reports-massive-explosion-roughly-100-feet-from-his-location/vi-AA1jl5Aw?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=38ff38869934433e8c590ad0573da969&ei=23

"Massive explosion"? I wonder what FOX would call the explosions in Gaza?

The idiot on FOX asks if the kindergarten was targeted? Someone should educate her that Hamas doesn't have the capability to target anything. They indiscriminately launch trying to kill anyone.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5019 on: November 03, 2023, 02:29:41 PM »
you know things are bad when Hezbollah sounds moderate