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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5060 on: November 03, 2023, 03:50:21 PM »
How many were fully of concrete, fuel, water pipes, or missiles?
I don't know and that is a valid point.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5061 on: November 03, 2023, 03:50:32 PM »
They have not said how long in public, but I am sure they told Bibi and he rejected it.
I am sure you know the massive difference between a pause and cease-fire.
Do the kidnap hostages get to go home during the pause? Is this like visiting day in sleepaway camp?

The Israeli government has made it very clear- no ceasefire, no pause, no break, no whatever you want to call it untill the hostages are returned and Hamas is destroyed.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5062 on: November 03, 2023, 03:52:40 PM »
The Israeli government has made it very clear- no ceasefire, no pause, no break, no whatever you want to call it untill the hostages are returned and Hamas is destroyed.
...and the US has made it clear they want a pause. Israel can and did tell the US to go pond sand. I expect that to have consequences. 
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5063 on: November 03, 2023, 03:53:45 PM »
...and the US has made it clear they want a pause. Israel can and did tell the US to go pond sand. I expect that to have consequences.
Boohoo.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5064 on: November 03, 2023, 03:56:28 PM »
Boohoo.
Have the US pull out its whole fleet and we will see who is saying BooHoo.  :)
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5065 on: November 03, 2023, 04:08:32 PM »
Have the US pull out its whole fleet and we will see who is saying BooHoo.  :)
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My point is stop giving me moral equivalency here. Just stop. You know Israel is justified with all their actions this week. Don't keep on giving me how the story looks to people who want to see what they want to see. Enough.

President Biden calling for a.humanatarian pause is just him giving in to pressure from people who don't give a hoot about Jewish lives. I would hope Netanyahu gave over that message in his private phone calls, the same way the US let leak that his political career is over.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5066 on: November 03, 2023, 04:10:18 PM »
My point is stop giving me moral equivalency here.
No one is talking about moral equivalency. We are talking about US support comes with strings.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5067 on: November 03, 2023, 04:11:40 PM »
Breaking: Israel targets a convey of ambulances. Israel claims they were transporting operatives and weapons.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5068 on: November 03, 2023, 04:12:07 PM »
CNN reporters now quoting the Gazan casualty tolls without saying where the numbers came from.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5070 on: November 03, 2023, 04:13:42 PM »
...and the US has made it clear they want a pause. Israel can and did tell the US to go pond sand. I expect that to have consequences.
The US may protect Israel primarily because they believe in "The Jewish Cause" but let's not pretend the US doesn't have a major geopolitical and economic interest in minimizing the influence of Iran, and propping up more Saudi friendly governments. While they may bash Israel publicly, they won't do anything significant to put Israel at a disadvantage, let alone removing their fleet and telling Iran to have fun.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5071 on: November 03, 2023, 04:13:55 PM »
CNN reporters now quoting the Gazan casualty tolls without saying where the numbers came from.
I am sure from either Hamas or the UN. Israel needs to give numbers even if they are estimates.
We all know the world we live in. People want numbers.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5072 on: November 03, 2023, 04:14:36 PM »
Not breaking.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5073 on: November 03, 2023, 04:15:00 PM »
I am sure from either Hamas or the UN. Israel needs to give numbers even if they are estimates.
We all know the world we live in. People want numbers.

But there was someone here who said they attribute it to Hamas.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5074 on: November 03, 2023, 04:16:59 PM »
...let alone removing their fleet and telling Iran to have fun.
I hope no one took that seriously.
What a real consequence I see is the US not being so outspoken.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5075 on: November 03, 2023, 04:18:46 PM »
But there was someone here who said they attribute it to Hamas.
Wouldn't you agree they are going to report numbers?
Israel saying, they are fake, but we don't have any does not help.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5076 on: November 03, 2023, 04:19:26 PM »
I am sure from either Hamas or the UN. Israel needs to give numbers even if they are estimates.
We all know the world we live in. People want numbers.
Israel can't even give a hard number from the attacks 4 weeks ago on their own soil.
Democracies don't pull numbers from thin air with instant death counts, especially when they're not on the ground to investigate. Propogandists do, but when they've been shown to make things up...
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5077 on: November 03, 2023, 04:19:38 PM »
they keep on stressing how they keep on stressing Israel about international
laws

Thatís not the same. When a mom cautions her child to be careful when crossing the street, that isnít an implication that the child isnít being careful.

The analogy is about cautioning not implying anything, not about the US being Israelís mother.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5078 on: November 03, 2023, 04:20:57 PM »
Israel can't even give a hard number from the attacks 4 weeks ago.
Democracies don't pull numbers from thin air with instant death counts. Propogandists do.
not to mention that we all know if Israel gives a number which is shown at a later point to be off by a few, that will become the story instead of the real story.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5079 on: November 03, 2023, 04:21:47 PM »
I am sure from either Hamas or the UN.
I think they use the same number counting system...