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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5240 on: November 05, 2023, 11:45:48 AM »
Quote from: DaasTora on November 05, 2023, 11:37:56 AM

Why are there a disproportionate amount of frum soldiers being killed in the current war?
Am I being a conspiracy theorist?

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=134532.msg2762540#msg2762540

I don't think there are. There's just much more action. They are invading Gaza and the Frum one's are ussually the ones that are in the combat units.
They've killed, supposedly, about 10,000 terrorists so far. So its about 1 Soldier Hy"D per 300 terrorist YshV"z.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5241 on: November 05, 2023, 11:48:52 AM »
Quote from: DaasTora on November 05, 2023, 11:43:41 AM
There have been many complaints in Israel that the IAF is constituted primarily of left wing secular soldiers and so is the Army Intelligence while the religious ones are sent to the front.
WOW!
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5242 on: November 05, 2023, 11:51:45 AM »
many religious sign up for combat units vs intelligence...
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5243 on: November 05, 2023, 11:53:26 AM »
Quote from: Dan on November 05, 2023, 11:10:43 AM
Is there a good explanation for that, given that Sarah sent him away for idolatry, adultery, and/or attempted murder?
Regarding Sarah and Yishmael see Ramban בראשית ט״ז ו׳
Gives me chills reading it.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5244 on: November 05, 2023, 12:05:07 PM »
Quote from: DaasTora on November 05, 2023, 11:53:26 AM
Regarding Sarah and Yishmael see Ramban בראשית ט״ז ו׳
Gives me chills reading it.
I still don't get it. By all accounts, he was a פרא אדם before Sarah sent them out. So what was the sin?
But yes, we still see the לענות זרע אברהם ושרה to this day.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5245 on: November 05, 2023, 12:17:11 PM »
There’s a famous Vort בדרך צחות, how did Yoshmoel appear to accompany Avraham to the עקידה after he was sent away? When he heard a Jew is going to be killed, he came running back.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5246 on: November 05, 2023, 12:17:28 PM »
30 days later & ZAKA is still busy. The horrors never end. :'(
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5247 on: November 05, 2023, 12:18:26 PM »
Quote from: Dan on November 05, 2023, 12:05:07 PM
I still don't get it. By all accounts, he was a פרא אדם before Sarah sent them out. So what was the sin?
But yes, we still see the לענות זרע אברהם ושרה to this day.
Joining mid discussion, but from the Pesukim it seems that the second it started affecting Yitzchok Sarah said enough. Avrohom was the מקור החסד, and was מקרב everyone, but only until it didn't affect his עבודת השם.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5248 on: November 05, 2023, 12:40:47 PM »
Quote from: AYHG on November 05, 2023, 11:02:12 AM
Of course children are innocent.

Even in this case the child is presumably innocent!

Excuse me? An 8 year old boy goes on a killing rampage and you are calling him innocent?! What have you been smoking?
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5249 on: November 05, 2023, 12:46:41 PM »
Quote from: ah giten on November 05, 2023, 12:18:26 PM
Joining mid discussion, but from the Pesukim it seems that the second it started affecting Yitzchok Sarah said enough. Avrohom was the מקור החסד, and was מקרב everyone, but only until it didn't affect his עבודת השם.

OK, so why was he judged favorably after that, באשר הוא שם.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5250 on: November 05, 2023, 12:58:12 PM »
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5254 on: November 05, 2023, 01:12:30 PM »
Quote from: Dan on November 05, 2023, 12:46:41 PM
OK, so why was he judged favorably after that, באשר הוא שם.
There is some part that must be נסתר here, Hashem also promised אברהם, when he asked לו ישמעאל יחיה לפניך, that ולישמעאל שמעתיך, that he'll be ידו בכל ויד כל בו, and לא יספר מרוב.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5255 on: November 05, 2023, 01:16:04 PM »
Sen. Bernie Sanders rejected calls for a ceasefire. Says Hamas has to go.

When you're to the left of Bernie Sanders, you know you're off the reservation.
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« Reply #5256 on: November 05, 2023, 01:16:54 PM »
Quote from: Just A Jew on November 05, 2023, 01:16:04 PM
Sen. Bernie Sanders rejected calls for a ceasefire. Says Hamas has to go.

When you're to the left of Bernie Sanders, you know you're off the reservation.
Wow! This is huge.

https://twitter.com/EylonALevy/status/1721210519917343116
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5257 on: November 05, 2023, 01:17:19 PM »
Quote from: Just A Jew on November 05, 2023, 01:16:04 PM
Sen. Bernie Sanders rejected calls for a ceasefire. Says Hamas has to go.

When you're to the left of Bernie Sanders, you know you're off the reservation.
wow no way.
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« Reply #5258 on: November 05, 2023, 01:18:26 PM »
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5259 on: November 05, 2023, 01:19:38 PM »
Quote from: Dan on November 05, 2023, 01:16:54 PM
Wow! This is huge.

https://twitter.com/EylonALevy/status/1721210519917343116
He still supports fake news in Gaza leading the PR war against common sense. But I guess, if even he doesn't support a long term ceasefire...

Meaning he still calls it a genocide and things like that which are hateful, incite hate, and factually proven incorrect.
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