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Author Topic: Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread  (Read 1372629 times)

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5500 on: November 06, 2023, 02:49:12 PM »

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5501 on: November 06, 2023, 02:50:44 PM »
Who is the pope representing ?
The moral voice of the world!
You don't see him saying it is ok to bomb a hospital.  :P
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5502 on: November 06, 2023, 02:52:23 PM »
The moral voice of the world!
Not the church ?
Who made him “the moral voice of the world” ?
« Last Edit: November 06, 2023, 02:57:06 PM by TimT »

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5503 on: November 06, 2023, 02:53:10 PM »
I take issue with that approach. Granted when it is a question of רציחה בידים in a vacuum we don’t rely on what you call “svaralach”. When inaction means consigning thousands of people to a certain death we do search for “svaralach” to save them, even if it results in the loss of a יחיד. I don’t think שב ואל תעשה is מכריעה over here when the options and their results are so disproportionate.
I take issue with this approach because it completely ignores that it is explicit that we cannot kill or even hand someone over to the enemy, even if that will cost thousands of lives, underscoring the חומר הדבר of direct רציחה.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5506 on: November 06, 2023, 02:56:15 PM »
Not the church ?

Some people don't make that distinction
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5508 on: November 06, 2023, 03:00:44 PM »
bomb the **** out of them, and good riddance.

Overly simplistic. What if they retaliate and they do not run for their lives? Are we ready to get dragged in another Afghanistan/Iraq X 10?

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5509 on: November 06, 2023, 03:05:49 PM »
Nothing new here
There are many of posts about the tunnels in this thread. I appreciate you singling my post as being nothing new.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5510 on: November 06, 2023, 03:07:19 PM »
There are many of posts about the tunnels in this thread. I appreciate you singling my post as being nothing new.
Not sure what your beef is. But I'm sorry if I offended you. Have a nice day.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5511 on: November 06, 2023, 03:16:30 PM »
Overly simplistic. What if they retaliate and they do not run for their lives? Are we ready to get dragged in another Afghanistan/Iraq X 10?
True, but Iran is not Iraq, and Iraq is only Iraq because of Iran.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5512 on: November 06, 2023, 03:26:29 PM »
True, but Iran is not Iraq, and Iraq is only Iraq because of Iran.

Iran is four times the size of Iraq and twice the population. We know the Persians are more civilized than the Iraqis but there are plenty of radicals who'll fight with their life to defend Radical Islam, and those are leading the country. Also, Iran is only Iran because of Iraq, the new Iraq without Saddam Hussain. SH did a pretty good job keeping the Mullahs on leash.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5513 on: November 06, 2023, 03:26:38 PM »
The moral voice of the world!


I don’t claim to be an expert in popes,
 but if I recall correctly this one happens to be pretty political.
And not to the right....

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5514 on: November 06, 2023, 03:51:44 PM »
Has anyone seen reports on the major news outlets how many terrorists were eliminated since Oct 7? Why do I only see reports of civilians?

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5515 on: November 06, 2023, 03:53:27 PM »
Has anyone seen reports on the major news outlets how many terrorists were eliminated since Oct 7? Why do I only see reports of civilians?
Keep in mind many of the terrorists are dressed as civilians.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5517 on: November 06, 2023, 03:57:03 PM »
Iran is four times the size of Iraq and twice the population. We know the Persians are more civilized than the Iraqis but there are plenty of radicals who'll fight with their life to defend Radical Islam, and those are leading the country. Also, Iran is only Iran because of Iraq, the new Iraq without Saddam Hussain. SH did a pretty good job keeping the Mullahs on leash.
True, I think someone like Hillel Nueur who did a lot of human rights work for the Iranians would have a better handle on how much percent of the population actually supports the Mullahs. It seems that they have much less internal support than we are led to believe.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5519 on: November 06, 2023, 04:14:48 PM »
True, I think someone like Hillel Nueur who did a lot of human rights work for the Iranians would have a better handle on how much percent of the population actually supports the Mullahs. It seems that they have much less internal support than we are led to believe.

The lack of support is quite clear. Mass protests, public mockery of the regime's rules at sporting events and such, and more.

Within the Jewish community, they toe a difficult line. Kids chant "Death to America" and "Death to Israel" at school every day. Jews speak out against Israel all the time, usually saying "zionists". There has been a crackdown since the massacre, with people leaving group chats that have Israelis on them, homes were raided, and some families had passports confiscated. Some Tehillim for that community is likely on order.