Author Topic: Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread (Read 1521551 times)

TimT · « **Reply #6260 on:** November 12, 2023, 09:57:49 PM »

Quote from: Euclid on November 12, 2023, 09:55:34 PM

His great-great-great-grandfather changed it.

joewei · « **Reply #6261 on:** November 13, 2023, 12:25:45 AM »

In a remote hearing about extending the arrest of a suspect connected to supporting Hamas, a judge, Itai Hermelin, engaged in a contentious exchange with members of the Israel Security Agency (Shin Bet). During this hearing, the judge took issue with the display of the Israeli flag and the phrase "Am Yisrael Chai" ("The people of Israel live") in the background during the video call, which deeply upset his sense of dignity.

This confrontation has raised questions about the judge's suitability and his stance in the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas. Given the intensified fighting between the two sides, such actions or displays at this time have been a topic of great sensitivity.

The judge objected to the presence of the Israeli flag and the phrase "Am Yisrael Chai" behind the suspect during the hearing. In response, Shin Bet agents explained that such displays are common in the current circumstances. However, the judge did not accept this explanation, deeming it inappropriate to have these specific symbols visible during the hearing. This led to his refusal to conduct the discussion in the presence of these symbols.

Following the public revelation of these events, previous interactions involving Judge Hermelin resurfaced, where he had maintained friendly relationships with his clients. In these interactions, he allowed the suspects to express their views without necessarily accepting the accusations attributed to them. Several government officials, including Minister of Internal Security Amir Ohana, expressed their disapproval and shock at the judge's actions during the hearing, interpreting them as undermining the ongoing struggle of their fellow law enforcement colleagues.

Minister of Internal Security Moshe Arbel wrote a letter addressing the judge's conduct during the hearing, emphasizing the importance of honoring and respecting the Israeli flag and the national motto. Additionally, Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir also expressed his disapproval, considering the judge's actions as a significant affront.

Dan · « **Reply #6262 on:** November 13, 2023, 01:01:33 AM »

Dana Bash did an incredible job on anti-semitism on CNN/Anderson Cooper's Whole Story tonight.

TimT · « **Reply #6263 on:** November 13, 2023, 08:29:52 AM »

BD”E HY”D
https://twitter.com/YaelZien/status/1724005156251955441

TimT · « **Reply #6264 on:** November 13, 2023, 08:36:35 AM »

https://twitter.com/TheMossadIL/status/1724002832662036531

Dan · « **Reply #6265 on:** November 13, 2023, 09:12:51 AM »

This is what we're up against. This is why we need a massive turnout tomorrow:
https://www.axios.com/2023/11/13/biden-gaza-hamas-policy-state-department-memo

mgarfin · « **Reply #6266 on:** November 13, 2023, 10:03:58 AM »

https://x.com/hasidic_1/status/1724041421450015229

mgarfin · « **Reply #6267 on:** November 13, 2023, 10:18:17 AM »

https://x.com/racheli82/status/1724071450808574243

Traveler718 · « **Reply #6268 on:** November 13, 2023, 10:46:18 AM »

https://twitter.com/KassyKosher/status/1723726854819852751

Looks like we're getting there...

https://twitter.com/FrumTikTok/status/1724081559295156529

https://twitter.com/jacklanger/status/1722969404764291475

Yehuda57 · « **Reply #6269 on:** November 13, 2023, 10:48:38 AM »

Quote from: mgarfin on November 13, 2023, 10:18:17 AM

https://x.com/racheli82/status/1724071450808574243

Maybe it's just me, but harassing some rando answering the phones who has to answer every call and likely has rules to follow in not being able to hang up on people, someone who clearly is annoyed by what is quite obviously a prank, just isn't funny and isn't going to make anyone more sympathetic to your cause.

ExGingi · « **Reply #6270 on:** November 13, 2023, 11:45:44 AM »

Quote from: Traveler718 on November 13, 2023, 10:46:18 AM

https://twitter.com/jacklanger/status/1722969404764291475

I have a few questions about this:

1. What does "לנוהגים ארבעים דקות" mean? That is מנהג המקום of ירושלים (and IINM also Petach Tikvah), how dare anyone put a different time as the "main" time.
2. Back in the day זמן רבינו תם was unheard of in EY (even amongst חסידים IINM, it's a recent American import) how many soldiers in Gaza care about it?

avromie7 · « **Reply #6271 on:** November 13, 2023, 11:47:29 AM »

Quote from: ExGingi on November 13, 2023, 11:45:44 AM

I have a few questions about this:

2. Back in the day זמן רבינו תם was unheard of in EY (even amongst חסידים IINM, it's a recent American import) how many soldiers in Gaza care about it?

It's part of the format, it would look weird if they excluded it.

Proisrael · « **Reply #6272 on:** November 13, 2023, 01:26:16 PM »

Quote from: ExGingi on November 13, 2023, 11:45:44 AM

I have a few questions about this:

1. What does "לנוהגים ארבעים דקות" mean? That is מנהג המקום of ירושלים (and IINM also Petach Tikvah), how dare anyone put a different time as the "main" time.
2. Back in the day זמן רבינו תם was unheard of in EY (even amongst חסידים IINM, it's a recent American import) how many soldiers in Gaza care about it?

Haifa does 30 minutes early....

Kobe Bryant · « **Reply #6273 on:** November 13, 2023, 01:48:10 PM »

luckyluck · « **Reply #6274 on:** November 13, 2023, 02:02:03 PM »

Quote from: ExGingi on November 13, 2023, 11:45:44 AM

I have a few questions about this:

1. What does "לנוהגים ארבעים דקות" mean? That is מנהג המקום of ירושלים (and IINM also Petach Tikvah), how dare anyone put a different time as the "main" time.

It's a Shas sign. 40 minutes never was a thing in the Sefardi communities