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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6520 on: November 17, 2023, 12:24:54 PM »
You had other expectations? I saw the still image and didn’t even bother to hit play.

That was my initial reaction. I just hit play after I saw it being discussed here. Waste of time is a gross understatement.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6522 on: November 17, 2023, 12:45:02 PM »
This police officer is an absolute legend

https://old.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/17xerbs/bodycam_of_an_israeli_police_officer_preforming/
This is the type of videos that need to be released from Gaza. Not some spokesperson doing a terrible job. Just release censored raw footage

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6523 on: November 17, 2023, 01:38:44 PM »
An 86 year old Jewish male hostage has reportedly died (murdered?) in captivity.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6524 on: November 17, 2023, 02:02:13 PM »
Shock Survey: 89% of Palestinians support terror groups known for suicide attacks, while 75% approve of October 7.

http://www.dossier.today/p/shock-survey-89-of-palestinians-support
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6525 on: November 17, 2023, 02:52:09 PM »
Shock Survey: 89% of Palestinians support terror groups known for suicide attacks, while 75% approve of October 7.

http://www.dossier.today/p/shock-survey-89-of-palestinians-support

What part of this is shocking?

Back to Gazan civilian conversation. It’s not right to generalize that all Gazans support terrorism. In fact, 90% of Gazans give the rest a bad name.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6526 on: November 17, 2023, 03:16:31 PM »
BD”E HY”D

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1725399996277620765
Unfortunately we already knew she was killed. She was just about murdered on video. BH they got her body so at least she will be zoche to kevuras yisroel.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6527 on: November 17, 2023, 03:21:58 PM »
Shock Survey: 89% of Palestinians support terror groups known for suicide attacks, while 75% approve of October 7.

http://www.dossier.today/p/shock-survey-89-of-palestinians-support

Would love if we can get @CountValentine to come back and comment on this, would be interesting to hear what people outside the echo chamber have to say.
Would it also change his mind on “innocent” civilians in Gaza dying

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6528 on: November 17, 2023, 03:36:11 PM »
Would it also change his mind on “innocent” civilians in Gaza dying

If you're going to use this as a way of justifying killing people, you're going down a very slippery slope. Thoughts and words don't equal actions. Rape and murder stand in a league of their own. There may be perfectly good legitimizations for what Israel is doing, but I'm not sure this is the one I'd use.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6529 on: November 18, 2023, 08:00:19 PM »
If you're going to use this as a way of justifying killing people, you're going down a very slippery slope. Thoughts and words don't equal actions. Rape and murder stand in a league of their own. There may be perfectly good legitimizations for what Israel is doing, but I'm not sure this is the one I'd use.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6530 on: November 18, 2023, 08:03:52 PM »
https://www.timesofisrael.com/weeks-after-the-onslaught-a-quietly-inspiring-visit-to-a-bloodied-gaza-border-kibbutz/

https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/gaza-news/article-769271

A family member’s story of surviving the Oct 7th massacre. To really appreciate this one has to see the map. I am sure most readers are familiar with the other Kibutzim surrounding Alumim.





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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6531 on: November 18, 2023, 08:09:34 PM »

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6535 on: November 18, 2023, 09:05:52 PM »
If you're going to use this as a way of justifying killing people, you're going down a very slippery slope. Thoughts and words don't equal actions. Rape and murder stand in a league of their own. There may be perfectly good legitimizations for what Israel is doing, but I'm not sure this is the one I'd use.
I am not justifying killing them, it wouldn’t be right to drive a pickup truck through a parade of Palestinians. But I would have to think hard before putting Israeli soldiers in harms way to save these “innocent” civilians.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6536 on: November 18, 2023, 09:38:21 PM »
I am not justifying killing them, it wouldn’t be right to drive a pickup truck through a parade of Palestinians. But I would have to think hard before putting Israeli soldiers in harms way to save these “innocent” civilians.

You asked if this was going to change any minds outside of the echo chamber. I don't think this moves the needle. Civilians are civilians no matter how much they say they hate the enemy.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6538 on: November 18, 2023, 10:57:30 PM »
Defense Minister Gallant: “We don't distinguish between Hamas terrorists with AK-47 in Gaza, and terrorists with suits in lavish hotels. We will eliminate them all.”

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6539 on: November 18, 2023, 11:21:46 PM »
How much do Muslims hate Israel?
This is not a rhetorical question; its answer will determine whether peace between Jews and Palestinians is even theoretically possible
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