Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread

[Just A Jew]

The hostages are their only ticket to staying alive (for now).

They have their own hostages. Knowing where PIJ is keeping someone doesn't change much for them at the moment.

[ExGingi]

I am appalled by their cynical quotes of Jewish sources, when all they are relying upon is "כוחי ועוצם ידי"!!!

Even לשיטתו, would his idol Churchill approve of this? He should be renamed Benjamin Chamberlin Netanyahu!

[jye]

How many IDF soldiers will die due to Hamas having time to regroup and better prepare for the upcoming phase of the war? How many will die because Israel will have to bend over backwards to accommodate global pressure to prevent “civilian” casualties once there is a pause of a few days? How many more hostage attempts will be undertaken in the future now that Hamas is getting such utility from them? Almost certainly more than the number of hostages being released. Rachmana Litzlan.

I understand the enormous pressure the government is under but negotiating a partial hostage release for a cessation of hostilities is an enormous mistake.

I fervently hope and pray that I am proven completely wrong.

[UKinNYS]

notice they are all wearing black - a somber day 

[ExGingi]

notice they are all wearing black - a somber day 

Netanyahu has been wearing black since the start of the war. I couldn't care less about what Benjamin Chamberlin-Netanyahu is wearing or the non-Jewish message he's projecting with it (we wear black on Shabbos and YT).

And now apparently comes the news that one of the hostages is no-longer alive. (the terrorists claim she died of complications...)

[UKinNYS]

this guy worked for the defense ministry till recently.
https://twitter.com/nitzandfux/status/1726985998461022309

[TimT]

Netanyahu has been wearing black since the start of the war. I couldn't care less about what Benjamin Chamberlin-Netanyahu is wearing

He sees the support Zelensky gets with all-green.

[imayid2]

For whatever it’s worth

[TimT]

BD”E HY”D

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1727060267807162441

[TimT]

Haniyeh's oldest grandson has gone to hell.

[avromie7]

Haniyeh's oldest grandson has gone to hell.

I hope he goes to visit him soon.

[Essen est zich]

Nefesh B Nefesh is offering free flights for 1 parent to visit their lone soldier child in Israel. Pass it on to anyone you know that this will be useful for
https://www.nbn.org.il/operation-hug/

[TimT]

https://twitter.com/HilzFuld/status/1727003810667561142

“The fact the IDF is a defensive army and has never once initiated a war is significant and deserves more recognition. 

If Israel wanted to do what some of the media would have you believe Israel wants to do, Hamas would be no more, Hezbollah would be no more, and truthfully, Gaza would be no more. It would take hours, not even days, let alone months.

But that’s not Israel’s way, that’s not the IDF’s way, that’s not the Jewish way.

Right now, Hezbolloh is playing with fire and attacking non stop in northern Israel, Hamas is trying to get in a win (aka dead Jews) before the hostage agreement kicks in, and Israel is basically under attack on multiple fronts.

Just minutes ago, Hamas fired 10 rockets into Israeli towns.

This war would be over in about 12 seconds if Israel wanted it to be.

Don’t forget that.

No other army on the planet would have the self control the IDF is displaying right now.”

[yelped]

For whatever it’s worth

They should most definitely implement the death penalty and make it quick to process.

[ExGingi]

https://x.com/DrEliDavid/status/1726935206660391222?s=20

[ExGingi]

BD”E HY”D

https://x.com/CarolineGlick/status/1727078164172525574?s=20

[ExGingi]

What was that saying about the definition of insanity?

https://x.com/elchangr/status/1727077830805385321?s=20

[jye]

DDF experts hashing it out won’t work?

[TimT]

What was that saying about the definition of insanity?

This

https://twitter.com/Nathaniel_Wind/status/1727075965959045437

[imayid2]

During the second intifada Rav Elya Svei instructed the Yated to publish pictures that they do not generally publish so that people acutely feel the pain and horror.

Obviously there are limits to that as well and I haven’t seen the papers, just something to keep in mind.

https://cross-currents.com/2023/11/21/nosei-bol-im-chaveiro/

While we can appreciate that there are those who have trouble viewing pictures, as benign as they were, of the tragic events of October 7th, the need of the community requires that they be seen, to feel the pain they cause, and let those suffering know they are also pained. And you can’t REALLY be pained at any level without hearing and seeing the results of those tragic events. We can be sensitive to those who are not able to “handle” the pictures and descriptions. But it is incumbent on them to refrain from consuming material that is damaging to them. It is certainly NOT appropriate for them to criticize the magazine for providing, in a very limited way, a resource for Jews who are comfortable in their communities, to experience some measure of discomfort, to have at least a glimmer of nosei b’ol im chaveiro. I apologize in advance to the anonymous writer who assured us that throwing away the magazine didn’t “detract one iota from my ability to be nosei b’ol.” If you didn’t see the pictures, you can’t imagine the suffering being endured by those whose family and friends were slaughtered or captured by the Hamas beasts. Even those of us who saw what Mishpacha published, and were exposed to visuals and descriptions that were much worse, have to work hard at being “nosei b’ol” and letting those suffering know it.