Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread

[aygart]

Guilty as charged. I realize now that I don’t know enough about the factors that went into the decision-making, and my reaction was indeed knee-jerk.

I wasn't referring to anyone in particular, but among some there was an attitude among some to be against before there were even any details to know.

[AsherO]

I wasn't referring to anyone in particular, but among some there was an attitude among some to be against before there were even any details to know.

That’s me. I’m still ideologically/on principle against negotiating with terrorists. At the same time, the current deal might be the lesser of two evils.

[TimT]

https://twitter.com/JustLuai/status/1727343320068702334

“October 7 survivor just told me: “I used to believe in peace, but I don’t anymore. I used to trust Arabs, but I don’t anymore. A guy named Khaleel lived in our village for 30 years. We called him our brother. He slept in our homes. He ended up drawing a map of our homes in the village and gave it to Hamas to slaughter us. How can I trust after this?”

[TimT]

One of the animals being released in the “hostage exchange”.

https://twitter.com/skjask/status/1727343498507305129

[Just A Jew]

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1727230561796894978.html

Thanks for posting with the unrolled version. Please post his continuation when he puts it up.

[Essen est zich]

Thanks for posting with the unrolled version. Please post his continuation when he puts it up.

+1 My filter allows it.

[AsherO]

Thanks for posting with the unrolled version. Please post his continuation when he puts it up.

He finished the thread, but it hasn’t (yet) made it to the unrolled version

[ExGingi]

He finished the thread, but it hasn’t (yet) made it to the unrolled version

I didn't see it.

[UKinNYS]

As much as we know theres more we dont know..
https://www.timesofisrael.com/behind-the-scenes-of-the-intense-talks-that-led-to-the-israel-hamas-hostage-deal/

[ExGingi]

Am I the only one wondering that the deal with extensions stops at 100 hostages (out of more than 200)? What do they know and are hiding from us? Are the rest non-Israeli? Not alive?

[1234567]

Side topic?

I didn't agree with everything in "The Empty Wagon" https://www.amazon.com/Empty-Wagon-Zionisms-journey-identity/dp/1642555541, but I thought it was a reasonable defense of that perspective. Others here though so as well, with some reservations (search the site)
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?action=search2;params=eJwtzc0KwyAQBOBXKV56mUNd-5M-TTC6NC1GgzENAR--a8lt52OGtf5ro2Nfz1VXVYfcLiJodCDQDQa6wwN0hxa9QmuYC-gJMtJfxrT1Lk1z4MKybLQOH3alTzHsh6Rcev_Okjwv7hBJmQP_3zdim90oqHiay37a7CtF9QPgDzas


This is a recent interview with the author where he discusses his views after a discussion about current events from the Palestinian perspective (not embedding - it's called "Debunking Zionist LIES With Noura Erakat & Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro"):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adPAmvGN234

Not sure what to think. Is he simply naive as to whom he is interviewing with and what he is tacitly endorsing (it is specifically mentioned that he was on in the first part as well)?

[JMHO]

Any recommendations for X accounts to follow for breaking or interesting news about the war? Not the usual western media outlets...
TIA

[ExGingi]

Full details of the deal and list of prisoners slated for release available for download here: https://t.me/MichaelShemesh/14904

[avromie7]

Am I the only one wondering that the deal with extensions stops at 100 hostages (out of more than 200)? What do they know and are hiding from us? Are the rest non-Israeli? Not alive?

The deal is limited to 10 days. I'm not sure how 50 in 4 days and 10 per day for another 6 days =100, it should leave a maximum of 110 or 9 days.

ETA: It seems it's actually limited to 9 days and the 10 day limit being reported is because early reports had 5 day pause in phase 1.

[ExGingi]

Any recommendations for X accounts to follow for breaking or interesting news about the war? Not the usual western media outlets...
TIA

Check wiki (and add).

[JMHO]

Check wiki (and add).

Thanks
Any recommendations on Twitter?

[AsherO]

Am I the only one wondering that the deal with extensions stops at 100 hostages (out of more than 200)? What do they know and are hiding from us? Are the rest non-Israeli? Not alive?

The paperwork you shared stated ישראלים חיים. Which makes for two exclusions. Then you have ones that aren’t in Hamas’ hands (not sure PIJ or others will include theirs in Hamas negotiations, though I would think they would), or otherwise unaccounted for by Hamas.

Could also be because some parties that opposed the deal reportedly agreed to it with a cap of 10 days, and 100 is all they were able to negotiate for that time period. It could be Hamas wanted other concessions for men/soldiers.

[ExGingi]

I don't like this guy's style, so I don't necessarily recommend following him. He is a Lebanese born Israeli. Only posting this here because this is the first I see of this video.

https://x.com/EdyCohen/status/1727380602402550158?s=20

[mgarfin]

Will the IDF be allowed to dig and search for tunnels and weapons in the Ceasefire days?

[ExGingi]

Thanks
Any recommendations on Twitter?

https://twitter.com/cogatonline
https://twitter.com/imshin
https://twitter.com/nowgnna
https://twitter.com/EnglishGaza  (a lot less updates than their Arabic channel, in which you can hit "translate post")
https://twitter.com/EylonALevy
https://twitter.com/orenbarsky
https://twitter.com/AnsbacherYair
https://twitter.com/amjadt25
https://twitter.com/TheMossadIL
https://twitter.com/Idan_Ronen
https://twitter.com/Istanbultelaviv
https://twitter.com/jconricus
https://twitter.com/nurityohanan
https://twitter.com/HenMazzig
https://twitter.com/droreydar
https://twitter.com/NoaMagid
https://twitter.com/sentdefender
https://twitter.com/Timesofgaza
https://twitter.com/MuhammadSmiry
https://twitter.com/arabnews
https://twitter.com/presamiga
https://twitter.com/jbytej
https://twitter.com/mishtal
https://twitter.com/hahussain
https://twitter.com/VictorNakba
https://twitter.com/ratlpolicy
https://twitter.com/AmbDermer
https://twitter.com/MoranT555
https://twitter.com/omerdank
https://twitter.com/Abu_Table - good down to earth humor
https://twitter.com/thenthinkagain
https://twitter.com/Saher95755738 - Druze Israeli news channel
https://twitter.com/memri_il
https://twitter.com/NKippur
https://twitter.com/ITIL10071982
https://twitter.com/ElizabethRimini
https://twitter.com/Motty53 - reports a lot on behind the scenes corruption of Israeli politics/law/military
https://twitter.com/CarolineGlick
https://twitter.com/amit_segal
https://twitter.com/HusseinAboubak
https://twitter.com/Zira_politit - headlines from various sources.