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Author Topic: Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread  (Read 1449358 times)

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6922 on: November 22, 2023, 12:56:58 PM »
'Ceasefire' didn't even begin yet here we go:

"Israel fears that Hamas may violate the agreed halt in fighting, and fire on soldiers in areas of northern Gaza controlled by the IDF, says a senior Israeli official briefing reporters.

Were soldiers to come under fire, they would be permitted to return fire, says the official, but Israel will attempt not to initiate military action.

The senior official says that Hamas has weak control in northern Gaza and may not be able to exert authority over all terrorists in that area.

Therefore, Israel will carefully weigh how to respond to any violations of the pause in hostilities on a case-by-case basis, mindful of the ongoing imperative to ensure that the release of hostages proceeds. Soldiers will confront any direct threat, while making the effort not to take actions that could be interpreted as breaching the agreement." TOI

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6923 on: November 22, 2023, 12:59:51 PM »
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1727311436681285908

“All who are now proclaiming that because Israel was able to obtain the release of 50 hostages at the cost of 150 terrorists, "de-escalation" is now possible -- you're out of your minds. Israel will not stop until Hamas is destroyed. That is Israel's political and moral duty.
Hamas is making a trade for terrorists and a pause in fighting, hoping Western idiots cudgel Israel into accepting Hamas' survival. Nope. You cannot "de-escalate" with a genocidal terror group committed to your destruction.”

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6924 on: November 22, 2023, 01:00:25 PM »
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6925 on: November 22, 2023, 01:26:42 PM »
I don't like this guy's style, so I don't necessarily recommend following him. He is a Lebanese born Israeli. Only posting this here because this is the first I see of this video.

https://x.com/EdyCohen/status/1727380602402550158?s=20

Lots of additional videos revealing the terror tunnel network under Al-Shifa. You can see them in the twitter accounts I posted above.

IDF spokesperson release with links found in this Telegram channel amongst others.

English version here.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6926 on: November 22, 2023, 01:45:48 PM »
https://t.me/southfirstresponders/423

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The video begins at a gathering point for a huge force of Hamas terrorists in a nature reserve west of Kibbutz Be'eri, seemingly where they met after crossing the fence. Once the Toyota begins to drive we can hear the euphoria in their voices ahead of the crimes they are about to commit.

Here are a few excerpts from what they say to each-other as they speed towards Israeli communities:

(01:30): "Oh the weather is great!"
(02:06): "This is the hour for Jihad! This is the hour for Jihad!"
(02:15): They taunt [Israeli prime minister] Netanyahu.
(02:20): "My God is generous with us! In the name of God we will succeed!"
(02:37): "It will take them two years...no.... 20 million years to figure out what happened here!"
(03:00): "We must livestream it on the GoPro! It's a must!".... "Don't worry, this will be seen live so everyone [in Gaza] will follow us!"

At (03:20), the terrorists arrive at Kibbutz Be'eri, the site of one of the worst massacres. They begin to scream out "BE'ERI, BE'ERI!" while laughing uncontrollably. 
(03:50): "Walla I will die a holy death!... God be with us!"
(03:59): "Send anyone and everyone our way! Oh Allah the Great!"

At (04:27) they approach road 232 and we can hear the driver screaming "where is [the city of] Netivot?"

At (04:48) We can hear the driver start to sing a jihadist song "Qariban Qariban" which was famously adopted by ISIS. After he finishes singing, the driver stops to shoot intensely at an Israeli civilian car.

At (05:45), the driver sees a family station wagon approaching down the road. We can hear the driver say "Give him lead Mahmoud!" The terrorists then fire assault rifles, an RPG, and a heavy machine gun at it, until finally they approach the vehicle.

At (07:20) the terrorist says "Clean it [the vehicle] out! Clean it out!"

The driver's fate is unclear.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6927 on: November 22, 2023, 01:49:02 PM »
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6928 on: November 22, 2023, 01:50:44 PM »
דובר צה"ל בהצהרה היומית: מוטלת עלינו החובה לעשות הכול - להשיב את החטופות והחטופים, הקשישים ונשים, הגברים והילדים; מדובר בתהליך מורכב שעלול לקחת זמן. אנו נערכים כרגע לימי הפסקת האש. הרמטכ"ל שוחח עם המפקדים, כולם ערוכים להפסקת האש. לפנינו עוד לחימה ארוכה - נחושים לממש את המטרות כפי שהוגדרו. עוד הוסיף: בחשיפת מנהרות שיפא - איתנו את מרכז העצבים של חמאס. אנחנו נשמיד אותו. עדכנו משפחות של 392 חללים עד כה

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392 fallen soldiers HY"D  :'( :'( :'(
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6929 on: November 22, 2023, 01:50:59 PM »
Can we please keep descriptions of extreme violence, even in text form, off this thread/forum?

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6931 on: November 22, 2023, 02:27:55 PM »
Get ready to continue hearing absolutely nothing from the news organizations.

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1727390438510723094

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6932 on: November 22, 2023, 02:54:42 PM »
Rabbi Moshe Hauer on the hostage release deal

https://www.ou.org/we-support-and-we-hold-responsible/

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6934 on: November 22, 2023, 03:04:38 PM »
Rabbi Moshe Hauer on the hostage release deal

https://www.ou.org/we-support-and-we-hold-responsible/

I don't agree with what he says, but it's very well writting. The attitude is that the State of Israel is above criticism. Now is likely not the time for organizations like the OU to criticise Israel, but that doesn't mean they have to publish statements like this either.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6935 on: November 22, 2023, 03:23:54 PM »
https://twitter.com/EylonALevy/status/1727407689893114147

Beyond tragic. The first thing these kids are going to be asking is for their parents & siblings. The soldiers are being told what to say & what not to say & how to say it. As if these little kids haven’t been through enough trauma yet. :'(

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6937 on: November 22, 2023, 03:45:52 PM »
https://twitter.com/JustLuai/status/1727343320068702334

“October 7 survivor just told me: “I used to believe in peace, but I don’t anymore. I used to trust Arabs, but I don’t anymore. A guy named Khaleel lived in our village for 30 years. We called him our brother. He slept in our homes. He ended up drawing a map of our homes in the village and gave it to Hamas to slaughter us. How can I trust after this?”

I wonder how many peoples views have changed since October 7th.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6938 on: November 22, 2023, 03:55:48 PM »
MUST READ - most profound quote "The release of the hostages has an operational price, but the price was fixed on October 7th at 6:30 am. If you don't protect thousands of citizens from kidnap and murder, you have to choose between very bad choices and less bad ones. "
https://danielgordis.substack.com/p/if-you-dont-defend-citizens-from

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