Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread

[ExGingi]

Schumer is joining Biden in taking advantage of the opportunity to get rid on Netanyahu. They don't care that it's coming at the expense of everyone else involved including all Israelis and Palestinian civilians.

[Ver hut gazugt]

And all in desperation to win an election they might not even win.

those voters either won’t vote at all because of their extremism or will vote the candidate they think is better then the other one. Either way the posturing will not get them any more votes and will possibly make them loose votes.

[Euclid]

Time to move this thread to the politics board?
I used to come here for the news about the war, now it's 24/7 politics.

[yitzgar]

Time to move this thread to the politics board?
I used to come here for the news about the war, now it's 24/7 politics.

The reason there is no news (rafiach invasion) is because of politics...

[EliJelly]

Time to move this thread to the politics board?
I used to come here for the news about the war, now it's 24/7 politics.

It has been the kvetching about Israel's non-respect in the world thread for the past few months already.

Finally Schumer came out saying the hard truths. The world leaders despise Netanyahu, his BS, his arrogance and his attitude, they don't trust he has Israel's best interest in his mind as much as he has his own political future. He is detrimental for Israel for anyone with open eyes, sadly most frummeh aren't included in that. Replacing him with a centrist more respected leader would be a lottery win for Israel when it comes to international recognition and support, something Israel so badly needs these days. 

[Ver hut gazugt]

It has been the kvetching about Israel's non-respect in the world thread for the past few months already.

Finally Schumer came out saying the hard truths. The world leaders despise Netanyahu, his BS, his arrogance and his attitude, they don't trust he has Israel's best interest in his mind as much as he has his own political future. He is detrimental for Israel for anyone with open eyes, sadly most frummeh aren't included in that. Replacing him with a centrist more respected leader would be a lottery win for Israel when it comes to international recognition and support, something Israel so desperately needs these days.

or maybe he does not agree with there ludicrous ideas 

[yitzgar]

It has been the kvetching about Israel's non-respect in the world thread for the past few months already.

Finally Schumer came out saying the hard truths. The world leaders despise Netanyahu, his BS, his arrogance and his attitude, they don't trust he has Israel's best interest in his mind as much as he has his own political future. He is detrimental for Israel for anyone with open eyes, sadly most frummeh aren't included in that. Replacing him with a centrist more respected leader would be a lottery win for Israel when it comes to international recognition and support, something Israel so badly needs these days.

This is nothing new.
....if only we would do xyz like the world wants, they wouldn't hate Jews....
Jews have said this for millenia. It has nothing to do with that. They just don't like Jews/Israel. And opportunistic Jews like Schumer cozy up to them for their own gain.

[yitzgar]

Don't let your hashkafa about the state of Israel blind you to the fact that most of the world is anti Israel because they don't like Jews. They blame it on netanyahu being right wing or arrogant or corrupt or whatever, but we see right through it.

[EliJelly]

This is nothing new.
....if only we would do xyz like the world wants, they wouldn't hate Jews....
Jews have said this for millenia. It has nothing to do with that. They just don't like Jews/Israel. And opportunistic Jews like Schumer cozy up to them for their own gain.

Don't let your hashkafa about the state of Israel blind you to the fact that most of the world is anti Israel because they don't like Jews. They blame it on netanyahu being right wing or arrogant or corrupt or whatever, but we see right through it.

Disdain for Jews and even hate definitely plays a role, but it has been Israel's signature line, the right wing's in particular, to brush off any criticism as AS. Many true allies are simply fed up with Bibi, and you gotta be blinded not see that. Biden likes Jews, Blinken likes Jews and Schumer likes Jews, so do numerous others who are now criticizing Israel. Even among the crazy woke who are against, it's also partially due to Bibi and co's arrogant rhetoric which gives the Palestinians a great edge at playing poor victims.   

[Sammy82]

Disdain for Jews and even hate definitely plays a role, but it has been Israel's signature line, the right wing's in particular, to brush off any criticism as AS. Many true allies are simply fed up with Bibi, and you gotta be blinded not see that. Biden likes Jews, Blinken likes Jews and Schumer likes Jews, so do numerous others who are now criticizing Israel. Even among the crazy woke who are against, it's also partially due to Bibi and co's arrogant rhetoric which gives the Palestinians a great edge at playing poor victims.   

Give me a break. They like Jews if it gets them votes. They're getting pressure to criticize so that's what they are doing.
Politics aside, has a single one of any of them said what Israel SHOULD do? Any of them have actual ideas?

[elazarb]

https://twitter.com/KolHaolam/status/1768289402235543660

Shomer Yishmael

[aygart]

Disdain for Jews and even hate definitely plays a role, but it has been Israel's signature line, the right wing's in particular, to brush off any criticism as AS. Many true allies are simply fed up with Bibi, and you gotta be blinded not see that. Biden likes Jews, Blinken likes Jews and Schumer likes Jews, so do numerous others who are now criticizing Israel. Even among the crazy woke who are against, it's also partially due to Bibi and co's arrogant rhetoric which gives the Palestinians a great edge at playing poor victims.   

ANd therefore gives Bibi the impression of being the strong one who will stand up to their pressure to leave Hamas alone.

[mgarfin]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/bidens-middle-east-is-a-fantasy-world-israelis-and-palestinians-arent-as-he-thinks-198003a8

[yelped]

https://twitter.com/JGreenbergSez/status/1768355132524134808

[yelped]

Lost in the vast examples of topsy turviness was Blinken's gem:

https://twitter.com/EFischberger/status/1768307886709448839

[AsherO]

Lost in the vast examples of topsy turviness was Blinken's gem:

https://twitter.com/EFischberger/status/1768307886709448839

Twisted considering your avg Gazan’s #1 priority is destroying Israel.

[yelped]

Twisted considering your avg Gazan’s #1 priority is destroying Israel.

Of course, but in their false narrative, they are angels who only want peace and they were hijacked by Hamas, when nothing could be further from the truth.

[Dan]

https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1768355249067065828

[Ver hut gazugt]

https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1768355249067065828

funny, he says that. as he seems to be the one stuck with old ideas that never worked.

[yelped]

https://twitter.com/HillelNeuer/status/1768398600978239650