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Author Topic: Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread  (Read 1458436 times)

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4000 on: October 29, 2023, 11:35:06 AM »
That Neturei Karta is a fringe group?
How would they possibly know that?
If you mean based on the way they look, probably. Then they would paint all "visibly Jewish" with the same brush.
Translation: Religious Jews stand with Palestine.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4001 on: October 29, 2023, 11:39:47 AM »
This does tremendous damage. What do you think those outside of DDF see when they see that?
That is their intent. They want to do damage. They shake the hands of murderers and befriend those that wish to kill the jews. I'd ask those that previously said they'll shed no tears if those that wish them dead die, if they would feel the same if neturei karta members get killed. Would they feel indifferent as well?

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4003 on: October 29, 2023, 11:45:20 AM »
That is their intent. They want to do damage. They shake the hands of murderers and befriend those that wish to kill the jews. I'd ask those that previously said they'll shed no tears if those that wish them dead die, if they would feel the same if neturei karta members get killed. Would they feel indifferent as well?

You mean if they get killed by the hands of the ones they shook?
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4004 on: October 29, 2023, 11:54:18 AM »
You mean if they get killed by the hands of the ones they shook?
They won’t kill them. Not yet, anyways. Great propaganda tool.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4005 on: October 29, 2023, 12:05:04 PM »
Israel is going to have a major problem. Gaza is starting to look like Ukraine (infrastructure).
The headlines will be brutal.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4006 on: October 29, 2023, 12:12:00 PM »
Israel is going to have a major problem. Gaza is starting to look like Ukraine (infrastructure).
The headlines will be brutal.
breaks my heart that it has to be this way but I haven't heard any solution that otherwise solves the Hamas issue

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4007 on: October 29, 2023, 12:17:41 PM »
Yup.
That could possibly work, but it just takes a lot of enforcement. Though be careful what you ask for, as this thread would then move to JS and people would lose a whole lot of EQPs. ;)
For the love of god please dont move it to JS
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« Reply #4008 on: October 29, 2023, 12:18:44 PM »
breaks my heart that it has to be this way but I haven't heard any solution that otherwise solves the Hamas issue
There is no answer.
My worry is what happens when then are done in the north. Do then do that to central and southern Gaza? They would have to, no?
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« Reply #4009 on: October 29, 2023, 12:20:21 PM »
For the love of god please dont move it to JS
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There would be a separate thread for only news. You would not have all the banter and just the news and updates.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4010 on: October 29, 2023, 12:21:46 PM »
There would be a separate thread for only news. You would not have all the banter and just the news and updates.
Still love the banter :P

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4012 on: October 29, 2023, 12:30:47 PM »
US should slam the door in his face!!!
Ok

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4013 on: October 29, 2023, 12:36:07 PM »
US should slam the door in his face!!!

Saudi defense minister expected to visit White House on Monday
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/saudi-defense-minister-expected-to-visit-white-house-on-monday-axios/ar-AA1j1aSD?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=3a6672df92744bfabea188353f6e0379&ei=15
I’m trying to read the headline again, it doesn’t say Iranian defense minister! So why would they slam the door. This is such a ridiculous comment. Supposedly saudis shot down missiles coming from houthis towards america bases. I guess you don’t care about American troops. Oh I forgot, jamaal the reporter from 5 years ago

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4014 on: October 29, 2023, 12:38:33 PM »
Back to way up the thread: (about 2.5 hours but thats years and tears ago on this thread)

Asking someone "do you condemn "terrorism" - yea or no?" is stupid.
I wouldn't condemn it either. the answer will always depend on whether I think that the cause and methods justify the means.
@CountValentine The better question is "do you condemn Barbarism?" or "Why do you think anything justifies what ever the Hamas did to little girls or young women or grandmothers? (Not writing exactly what they did so peoples filters wont block the page  ;))

Dropping the A-bomb on Japan (Twice!) was arguably terrorism. The firebombing of Dresden and other German cities...
Deliberately targeting civilian areas in order to create "shock and awe" (which was the point in Japan) or reduce moral (Germany) = Terrorism...
but if I were the army planners of course I would do it.

Deir Yassin (if it happened the way the Arabs said it did - Yesh Ladun V'hamevin Yavin - its not like they arent the granddaddies of Hamas) = Terrorism (and even if it didn't happen that way (as Etzel/Lechi claim to this day) - the spreading story itself had the desired impact regardless of the truthfulness - causing civilians across the co to flee (and making ETZL/Lechi look bad))
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« Reply #4015 on: October 29, 2023, 12:40:46 PM »
I’m trying to read the headline again, it doesn’t say Iranian defense minister! So why would they slam the door. This is such a ridiculous comment. Supposedly saudis shot down missiles coming from houthis towards america bases. I guess you don’t care about American troops. Oh I forgot, jamaal the reporter from 5 years ago
Saudis have tried everything to fix oil prices to undermine our economy. They are trying to extract concessions from the US for a peace deal with Israel. They are not our friend.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4016 on: October 29, 2023, 12:41:54 PM »
Meanwhile this lovely chap was allowed into our country & gets our top security
https://twitter.com/KasraAarabi/status/1717472212284801343

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4017 on: October 29, 2023, 12:43:18 PM »
Saudis have tried everything to fix oil prices to undermine our economy. They are trying to extract concessions from the US for a peace deal with Israel. They are not our friend.

In a dangerous neighborhood, it can be helpful to be on good terms with at least one gangster.

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« Reply #4018 on: October 29, 2023, 12:45:05 PM »
In a dangerous neighborhood, it can be helpful to be on good terms with at least one gangster.
Qatar isn't enough?  ;)
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Qatar isn't enough?  ;)

They're not big and scary enough.
And anyway it's better to have a posse  ;D