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Author Topic: Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread  (Read 1139386 times)

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4600 on: November 01, 2023, 10:57:32 AM »


Fell in battle 10/31/23  :'(

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4602 on: November 01, 2023, 10:59:38 AM »
I follow this guy because he has some nice graphic design pointers and ideas but lately all he's doing is posting pro-hamas things  :-\

https://www.instagram.com/siddique_graphics/
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4603 on: November 01, 2023, 11:34:26 AM »

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4604 on: November 01, 2023, 11:38:01 AM »
So much for America's diplomatic prowess

https://twitter.com/JacquiHeinrich/status/1719729421169365355

Apparently the few October 7th hostages that are American nationals are not enough pressure on America.

#leverage
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4605 on: November 01, 2023, 11:38:13 AM »
So much for America's diplomatic prowess

https://twitter.com/JacquiHeinrich/status/1719729421169365355
Who's preventing US citizens from crossing? Hamas or Egypt?

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4606 on: November 01, 2023, 11:42:28 AM »
Apparently the few October 7th hostages that are American nationals are not enough pressure on America.

#leverage
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I am guessing the US could have killed this deal unless it included Americans but that would make no sense.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4607 on: November 01, 2023, 11:44:08 AM »
So much for America's diplomatic prowess

https://twitter.com/JacquiHeinrich/status/1719729421169365355


Shameful. Clearly Qatar is not feeling the heat.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4608 on: November 01, 2023, 12:02:19 PM »
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4609 on: November 01, 2023, 12:02:30 PM »
Breaking: Another massive blast at same refugee camp.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4610 on: November 01, 2023, 12:02:50 PM »
Who's preventing US citizens from crossing? Hamas or Egypt?
So much for America's diplomatic prowess

https://twitter.com/JacquiHeinrich/status/1719729421169365355



Turns out this was part of a broader agreement that was brokered and apparently Americans are expected to leave Gaza as well over the next few days.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4611 on: November 01, 2023, 12:06:07 PM »
Breaking: Another massive blast at same refugee camp.

Why do you have to use such explosive terminology? :P
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4612 on: November 01, 2023, 12:09:05 PM »
These kids are amazing!

https://twitter.com/jacklanger/status/1719711731830727079

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4613 on: November 01, 2023, 12:23:37 PM »
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/379487

Austrian MP visiting Israel: 'We support Israel. Refugees completely changed our society'
Dr. Reinhold Lopatka, VP of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, explains the world's mistakes in viewing the war against Hamas.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4614 on: November 01, 2023, 12:24:43 PM »
https://twitter.com/SussexFriends/status/1719716956213837879

Sharing for the video, not the tweet caption.

Was wondering if Israel would use bunker busters, considering the damage they would cause. It may sound heartless to say, but I'm glad they did. Trying to destroy that terrorist HQ without them likely would have killed even more people, even if the optics wouldn't have been this bad

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« Reply #4615 on: November 01, 2023, 12:28:06 PM »
Was wondering if Israel would use bunker busters, considering the damage they would cause. It may sound heartless to say, but I'm glad they did. Trying to destroy that terrorist HQ without them likely would have killed even more people, even if the optics wouldn't have been this bad
Would it be reasonable to think some hostages are also at these sites? How much should that change the equation?
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« Reply #4616 on: November 01, 2023, 12:32:39 PM »
Would it be reasonable to think some hostages are also at these sites? How much should that change the equation?

Of course it would be reasonable. Logically, I want to say not at all. the hostages preventing Israel from finishing the job will cause far more death and destruction in the long run. But it is an impossible decision to make being that we don't operate solely on logic.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4617 on: November 01, 2023, 12:35:38 PM »
Would it be reasonable to think some hostages are also at these sites? How much should that change the equation?

It’s hard for laypeople like us to even say whether (or to what extent) Israel does or doesn’t have intelligence to make that assessment.
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« Reply #4618 on: November 01, 2023, 12:43:41 PM »
It’s hard for laypeople like us to even say whether (or to what extent) Israel does or doesn’t have intelligence to make that assessment.
I just feel the hostages should be a major part of the equation and maybe it is.
There is a movie "Eye in the sky" that takes you through the process if a target should be taken out. Worth a watch as it shows all sides of the decision.
 
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #4619 on: November 01, 2023, 12:44:51 PM »
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/379487

Austrian MP visiting Israel: 'We support Israel. Refugees completely changed our society'
Dr. Reinhold Lopatka, VP of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, explains the world's mistakes in viewing the war against Hamas.
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