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Author Topic: Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread  (Read 1134877 times)

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5022 on: November 03, 2023, 02:43:17 PM »
A big problem is there are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world & only 16 million Jews in the world. Even if only a tiny % of Muslims are biased towards Hamas, there will still be a lot more Hamas sympathizers than Israeli sympathizers, even though Israel is in the right. That means more eligible voters sympathizing with Hamas and more TV viewers sympathizing with Hamas. Politicians who want votes are forced to choose between what's better for their political career and what is ethically correct. News and media companies also have to choose between what will increase their viewers and what is ethically correct. I wonder what could be the solution. Is there a way to even make this not about religion?

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5023 on: November 03, 2023, 02:46:18 PM »
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Unbelievable and sickening. Biden turning on Israel for purely domestic political purposes. Biden losing support among Arab supporters of Hamas in Michigan and elsewhere. So he implies Israel’s not protecting civilians and there must be a ceasefire, which would utterly undermine Israel’s military efforts. And at the same time telling the terrorist Nazis that the United State will reward them with a country carved out of Israel or Gaza itself.

It’s time for Republicans in Congress to dig into this. Biden has already funded and unleashed our enemies in the Middle East and now he’s going to blow it all up.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5025 on: November 03, 2023, 02:47:08 PM »
and what about the hostages
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5026 on: November 03, 2023, 02:48:12 PM »
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5027 on: November 03, 2023, 02:52:19 PM »
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Unbelievable and sickening. Biden turning on Israel for purely domestic political purposes. Biden losing support among Arab supporters of Hamas in Michigan and elsewhere. So he implies Israel’s not protecting civilians and there must be a ceasefire, which would utterly undermine Israel’s military efforts. And at the same time telling the terrorist Nazis that the United State will reward them with a country carved out of Israel or Gaza itself.

It’s time for Republicans in Congress to dig into this. Biden has already funded and unleashed our enemies in the Middle East and now he’s going to blow it all up.

When did Biden imply Israel isn’t protecting civilians?
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5028 on: November 03, 2023, 02:54:02 PM »
A big problem is there are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world & only 16 million Jews in the world. Even if only a tiny % of Muslims are biased towards Hamas, there will still be a lot more Hamas sympathizers than Israeli sympathizers, even though Israel is in the right. That means more eligible voters sympathizing with Hamas and more TV viewers sympathizing with Hamas. Politicians who want votes are forced to choose between what's better for their political career and what is ethically correct. News and media companies also have to choose between what will increase their viewers and what is ethically correct. I wonder what could be the solution. Is there a way to even make this not about religion?

The reasons to argue this is about religion are a lot more than population or population disparity.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5030 on: November 03, 2023, 03:00:55 PM »
When did Biden imply Israel isn’t protecting civilians?
He didn't. He also didn't call for a cease-fire, yet.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5031 on: November 03, 2023, 03:10:21 PM »
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5033 on: November 03, 2023, 03:13:35 PM »
He didn't. He also didn't call for a cease-fire, yet.
Ok. A 'pause' ::)

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5034 on: November 03, 2023, 03:18:42 PM »
Ok. A 'pause' ::)
Do understand the major difference between a pause and a cease-fire?
You must follow Fox.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5035 on: November 03, 2023, 03:20:06 PM »
Do understand the major difference between a pause and a cease-fire?
You must follow Fox.
Sorry, I haven't watched or seen fox since 10/7.

Can you please explain the difference and what you think Biden meant by a pause?

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5036 on: November 03, 2023, 03:20:16 PM »
ad-hominem attack
I 100% attacked the person!!!
The same as I would for any self-hating American.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5037 on: November 03, 2023, 03:20:31 PM »
Self-hating Democrat .
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5038 on: November 03, 2023, 03:21:29 PM »
Sorry, I haven't watched or seen fox since 10/7.

Can you please explain the difference and what you think Biden meant by a pause?
Sure, right after you answer:
Do understand the major difference between a pause and a cease-fire?
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5039 on: November 03, 2023, 03:21:37 PM »
When did Biden imply Israel isn’t protecting civilians?
they keep on stressing how they keep on stressing Israel about international
laws