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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5620 on: November 07, 2023, 12:03:20 AM »
Is it? If it is I wonder if that is allowed on DDF? @Dan

Once the doxxing has occurred on larger platforms, it's not considered doxxing anymore to republish the info, after all, it's no longer private

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5621 on: November 07, 2023, 12:04:31 AM »
They have no idea if he was killed.
Right, he might still be alive. Listen to yourself🤷

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5622 on: November 07, 2023, 12:05:21 AM »
LATimes & a few others didn’t even mention he’s Jewish.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5623 on: November 07, 2023, 12:06:25 AM »
From ToI live blog:

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After the Jewish Federation of Greater Los Angeles issued a statement saying that 69-year-old Paul Kessler’s death was caused by a blow to the head from a megaphone held by a pro-Palestinian protester in West Lake Village, a local rabbi says he spoke with the town’s police chief and that the circumstances surrounding the incident are not yet clear.

“It is not clear yet exactly what happened other than an elderly Jew was counter-protesting at a Gazan demonstration, hit the ground, and died. We DO NOT KNOW at this time if he fell, was pushed, or was attacked. Please do not spread rumors. We will know soon what happened,” writes Barclay, who is the spiritual leader at Temple Ner Simcha in West Lake Village.

He later adds that police have conflicting reports of what happened and have interviewed a suspect who was identified on social media as having been at the event.

However, Barclay says that police do not have video of the moments leading up to when Kessler wound up on the ground.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5625 on: November 07, 2023, 12:11:56 AM »
Once the doxxing has occurred on larger platforms, it's not considered doxxing anymore to republish the info, after all, it's no longer private
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5628 on: November 07, 2023, 12:13:20 AM »
Right, he might still be alive. Listen to yourself🤷
You can die without being killed. I can't believe I need to point that out.

Is everyone just messing with me on purpose?
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5629 on: November 07, 2023, 12:17:05 AM »
Person A wacks person B in the face without intent to kill him. Person B tragically loses him balance, hits his head hard on the floor, and suffers fatal injuries.

Has Person A "killed" Person B?

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5630 on: November 07, 2023, 12:18:27 AM »

Let me get this straight.
The left is complaining now about cancel culture because they are not doing it.
The right is now ok with cancel culture because they are doing it.
Are there hypocrites?  Yes, both sides!!!
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5631 on: November 07, 2023, 12:20:23 AM »
Person A wacks person B in the face without intent to kill him. Person B tragically loses him balance, hits his head hard on the floor, and suffers fatal injuries.

Has Person A "killed" Person B?
Killed, caused the death of or both?
Involuntary manslaughter?
ETA: The headlines are accurate as no one knows what happened at this point.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5632 on: November 07, 2023, 12:20:48 AM »
Person A wacks person B in the face without intent to kill him. Person B tragically loses him balance, hits his head hard on the floor, and suffers fatal injuries.

Has Person A "killed" Person B?
Yes

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5633 on: November 07, 2023, 12:21:00 AM »
Person A wacks person B in the face without intent to kill him. Person B tragically loses him balance, hits his head hard on the floor, and suffers fatal injuries.

Has Person A "killed" Person B?

Yes. Whether it is criminally culpable or not is dependent on the circumstances.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5634 on: November 07, 2023, 12:21:56 AM »
From ToI live blog:

I would not put too much stock in what he is saying, he seems to be a combination of self promoting and thinking he is a police spokesman


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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5635 on: November 07, 2023, 12:24:51 AM »
Person A wacks person B in the face without intent to kill him. Person B tragically loses him balance, hits his head hard on the floor, and suffers fatal injuries.

Has Person A "killed" Person B?

its going to depend on the circumstances that led up to his head coming in contact with the pavement and with the amount of video usually at these events and the amount of bystanders, hopefully there will be some clarity at the press conference tomorrow

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5636 on: November 07, 2023, 12:25:29 AM »
I would not put too much stock in what he is saying, he seems to be a combination of self promoting and thinking he is a police spokesman

Not putting stock in anything. Just seems like there's a lot unknown along with plenty of misinformation going around. Can't yell at CV about MSM jumping to conclusions in Gaza and then yell at him when they don't here.

ETA: I mean we can, but then he gets to be right, and no one likes when that happens ;)
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5637 on: November 07, 2023, 12:26:20 AM »
Can't yell at CV about MSM jumping to conclusions in Gaza and then yell at him when they don't here.
Sure you can. It is done all the time.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5638 on: November 07, 2023, 12:26:52 AM »
Sure you can. It is done all the time.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5639 on: November 07, 2023, 12:27:12 AM »
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