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Author Topic: Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread  (Read 1324127 times)

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5660 on: November 07, 2023, 01:11:07 AM »
Jackson Hinkle, a former publicist and professional surfer, is a U.S. citizen residing in California who presents himself as a political commentator, defining himself as a communist and a supporter of former President Donald Trump. He maintains a popular Twitter account known as 'חשבון X' (formerly Twitter), which he exploits for the dissemination of falsehoods.

For instance, at the beginning of the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, he praised and applauded Putin, even when it became clear that Russia was deeply involved in the Ukrainian crisis. Furthermore, allegations have arisen against him that he may be a Russian spy.

He generates significant amounts of fake news, ranging from denying the horrifying massacre carried out by Hamas terrorists and civilians from the Gaza Strip when they infiltrated Israel during the celebration of Simchat Torah, to accusing Israel of behaving like ISIS, rather than terrorist organizations, and claiming that Israel commits murders alongside Palestinians.

After provoking his false propaganda against Israel, an Israeli hacker group called 'We Red Evils' decided to take action. They blocked his WhatsApp accounts and prevented him from receiving money from his followers who enjoyed the lies he spread.

In their statement, they wrote: 'In a focused effort and a lot of hard work, we have completely shut down Jackson Hinkle's private and business WhatsApp accounts, which he has been using consecutively for 5 years. However, we have blocked him from the option of receiving money or tips through the LocalS app he has been using for years.'

In conclusion, they threatened: 'If the incitement against the State of Israel does not stop, we will begin taking down Account X, and Alon Musk (Elon Musk) will be next in line. The arms are everywhere.'

Hinkle himself confirmed that he was blocked and even complained about it to his followers on the platform.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5661 on: November 07, 2023, 01:21:25 AM »
First private university bans Students for Justice in Palestine as Middle East fallout spreads
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/first-private-university-bans-students-for-justice-in-palestine-as-middle-east-fallout-spreads/ar-AA1jvgCo?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=LCTS&cvid=6cacde7e6911495c8496d7ef05cc440a&ei=9

Can you say, lawsuit?  :)

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The university’s decision comes after the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and the Louis D. Brandeis Center sent a letter to 200 colleges and universities late last month urging them to investigate student organizations of SJP “for potential violations of 18 USC 2339A and B, and its state equivalents, that is, for potential violations of the prohibition against materially supporting a foreign terrorist organization.”

Chase has shut me down for lot less then supporting terrorists


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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5662 on: November 07, 2023, 04:58:56 AM »
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/379862
Hamas leader claims no civilians were killed on October 7th.
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« Reply #5663 on: November 07, 2023, 05:00:33 AM »
CNN host defends Israel: 'What exactly did Hamas think Israel would do?'
CNN's Jake Tapper presents photos from Gaza, claims Israel kills civilians and children. 'Did Hamas not anticipate that Israel would retaliate for Oct. 7 massacre?'
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/379867
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5664 on: November 07, 2023, 05:01:47 AM »
Jordanian PM warns: Displacing PA Arabs a 'declaration of war'
Jordan's PM Khasawneh says 'aggression against Gaza' constitutes 'violation of international law.'

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/379858
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5665 on: November 07, 2023, 06:12:30 AM »
CNN headline- Man in California dies after suffering head injury at pro-Israeli and pro-Palestinian demonstrations
From the body of the article- "A 69-year-old man died after suffering a head injury during an altercation at demonstrations for Palestinians and Israelis in Thousand Oaks, California, Sunday, and his death has been ruled a homicide, authorities said."  "An autopsy found “the cause of death to be blunt force head injury and the manner of death homicide,” the sheriff’s office said."
Here's the definition of homicide- "the killing of one person by another" -(oxford)
It would be wholly appropriate the use the term killed. And there's no more excuse of waiting for law enforcement.


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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5666 on: November 07, 2023, 06:24:13 AM »
Jackson Hinkle...

I don't think he should be banned from X however, every single post from this fellow needs a community note. Those who don't care about the truth won't listen and those who do at least will have sources to prove he is wrong.


Also the monetary aspect. Musk said any tweet with a community note is not eligible for monetary compensation. He is getting the most impressions on X and by adding a community note to every post he will loose that push to publish false information.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5667 on: November 07, 2023, 07:46:42 AM »

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5669 on: November 07, 2023, 08:25:39 AM »
It would be wholly appropriate the use the term killed. And there's no more excuse of waiting for law enforcement.
No one knows at this point if someone was killed. What is so hard to understand?
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5670 on: November 07, 2023, 08:39:45 AM »
No one knows at this point if someone was killed. What is so hard to understand?
so we assume he died of natural causes here?

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5671 on: November 07, 2023, 08:40:59 AM »
Hello ECHO-CHAMBER!!!  ::)
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5672 on: November 07, 2023, 08:44:59 AM »
Let me get this straight.
The left is complaining now about cancel culture because they are not doing it.
The right is now ok with cancel culture because they are doing it.
Are there hypocrites?  Yes, both sides!!!

Now you are starting to get what I've been saying all this time. Finally!
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5673 on: November 07, 2023, 08:46:17 AM »
No one knows at this point if someone was killed. What is so hard to understand?
The sheriffs office seems to know.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5674 on: November 07, 2023, 08:47:35 AM »
The sheriffs office seems to know.
Then we will know shortly.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5675 on: November 07, 2023, 08:48:10 AM »
Now you are starting to get what I've been saying all this time. Finally!
No, your position is everyone is this or everyone is that.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5676 on: November 07, 2023, 08:50:22 AM »
Then we will know shortly.
Did you read my post? An article on cnn, which quoted the sheriffs office ruling it a homicide, still refused to use the word killed. So yesterday’s defense of “the media is waiting for law enforcement to comment” rings a little hollow.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5677 on: November 07, 2023, 08:50:53 AM »
No, your position is everyone is this or everyone is that.

In other words, that they are both hypocrites.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5678 on: November 07, 2023, 08:58:21 AM »
Hello ECHO-CHAMBER!!!  ::)
I think you're kind of missing the point here. No one has any problem with upholding sterling journalistic standards and being careful with exactly what you report especially when every word matters and waiting a bit will allow you to gain clarity on the facts. They are just contrasting the headlines on this story with say this:
BBC correspondent Jon Donnison told BBC News viewers on the evening of the explosion: "It's hard to see what else this could be, really, given the size of the explosion, other than an Israeli air strike, or several air strikes", adding, "When we've seen rockets being fired out of Gaza, we never see explosions of that scale."[50]
After the explosion on 17 October, the New York Times' home page prominently featured headlines highlighting the Palestinian claims about an "Israeli Strike" and "At Least 500 Dead", before starting to tone them down and include Israeli counter-claims after about two hours (according to an analysis by Nieman Lab).[54] Several New York Times journalists had raised concerns about these headlines internally, but they were overruled.[55]

There is an obvious difference in how the stories were initially reported when there was a clear opportunity to wait for facts to become clear. And wondering rightfully whether the identities of the perceived victims and aggressors may have had a role in that disparity. The reason there is an echo is because this is resounding across the media and coverage

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #5679 on: November 07, 2023, 09:03:23 AM »
Did you read my post? An article on cnn, which quoted the sheriffs office ruling it a homicide, still refused to use the word killed. So yesterday’s defense of “the media is waiting for law enforcement to comment” rings a little hollow.
You are twisting everything to fit your narrative. My first clue is you didn't post a link to the article.
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