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Author Topic: Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread  (Read 1359558 times)

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6360 on: November 14, 2023, 07:46:38 PM »
After that last underwhelming video at Al-Rantisi hospital, Israel has got to do a better PR job here

They should avoid any explanations. All they need is body cameras (and possibly access to hospital security cameras). They are entering with medical teams. If there is nothing but medical activity going on there, there should not be even one shot fired. Shots fired will prove Hamas military activities based there.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6361 on: November 14, 2023, 07:51:19 PM »
They should avoid any explanations. All they need is body cameras (and possibly access to hospital security cameras). They are entering with medical teams. If there is nothing but medical activity going on there, there should not be even one shot fired. Shots fired will prove Hamas military activities based there.
and I just love how they prove that weapons were stored in a school so they show you where they were before, and then they say “and the weapons are now outside let’s show you that”. Don’t move the weapons until you film the gosh darn room with them in it!
nothings impossible- the word itself says Im possible

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6362 on: November 14, 2023, 07:57:14 PM »
He sure can.

“Piers Richard Corbyn is a British weather forecaster, anti-vaccine activist, conspiracy theorist,”

Anyone claiming they can do this is definitely a charlatan :P

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6363 on: November 14, 2023, 07:59:00 PM »
After that last underwhelming video at Al-Rantisi hospital, Israel has got to do a better PR job here

Did CV steal your DDF account? :P
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6364 on: November 14, 2023, 08:07:35 PM »
They should avoid any explanations. All they need is body cameras (and possibly access to hospital security cameras). They are entering with medical teams. If there is nothing but medical activity going on there, there should not be even one shot fired. Shots fired will prove Hamas military activities based there.

https://x.com/gaza_report/status/1724594522863144967?s=20
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6366 on: November 14, 2023, 08:56:44 PM »
and I just love how they prove that weapons were stored in a school so they show you where they were before, and then they say “and the weapons are now outside let’s show you that”. Don’t move the weapons until you film the gosh darn room with them in it!

And stop repeating the word "evidence" 5 times in every sentence, show it clearly in a way that it will speak for itself.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6367 on: November 14, 2023, 09:07:10 PM »
https://twitter.com/islandjew/status/1724465527987568814
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6371 on: November 15, 2023, 12:49:14 AM »
It's official.. the first shul opened in Gaza, by the beach. looking for steady mispalilim to join :)


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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6373 on: November 15, 2023, 01:21:07 AM »
Mind blown. You can't make up this kind of stuff!

https://x.com/piersmorgan/status/1724499365744521417?s=20
This is just the tip of the iceberg once you get to why they believe so. I know someone who also believes in this type of garbage. Along with other beliefs that you can imagine go with it.
We have respectful debates and I make my opinions quite clear. I don't shy away from giving my opinion. I believe logic will prevail if reinforced consistently and not double down in their fantasizing disasters.

My current debate style is to stick to one thing/event at a time. Without allowing the conversation to veer to any other topic. Go through it thoroughly why they believe so and what the proofs are.  Again I stress that I do not allow the conversation to move to a different topic. I listen to it and evaluate if it's a fair point. What the assumptions are and other reasonable explanations for an action.

I guess that's really the only way to debate things.

Another thing that I stress is that I'm a smart guy. I'm not a blind follower of anything. I'm aware of their opinions I listen to them and I disagree. Not because I'm a sheep rather it's because I'm fully capable of analyzing something and coming to a conclusion.

(For the record I don't think of myself as above average intelligence, quite the contrary)

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6374 on: November 15, 2023, 01:51:22 AM »
This is just the tip of the iceberg once you get to why they believe so. I know someone who also believes in this type of garbage. Along with other beliefs that you can imagine go with it.
We have respectful debates and I make my opinions quite clear. I don't shy away from giving my opinion. I believe logic will prevail if reinforced consistently and not double down in their fantasizing disasters.

My current debate style is to stick to one thing/event at a time. Without allowing the conversation to veer to any other topic. Go through it thoroughly why they believe so and what the proofs are.  Again I stress that I do not allow the conversation to move to a different topic. I listen to it and evaluate if it's a fair point. What the assumptions are and other reasonable explanations for an action.

I guess that's really the only way to debate things.

Another thing that I stress is that I'm a smart guy. I'm not a blind follower of anything. I'm aware of their opinions I listen to them and I disagree. Not because I'm a sheep rather it's because I'm fully capable of analyzing something and coming to a conclusion.

(For the record I don't think of myself as above average intelligence, quite the contrary)

From now on, every back and forth arguments members here have with CV can only be up to 20 posts. Once it reaches 20 posts, you step in, evaluate the arguments and you issue a verdict. Once the verdict is issued, the topic is closed! Next topic!

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6375 on: November 15, 2023, 04:55:58 AM »
https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1724572433842057311

"Government media office of gaza*......

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6376 on: November 15, 2023, 06:49:52 AM »
I'm a smart guy.
(For the record I don't think of myself as above average intelligence, quite the contrary)
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6378 on: November 15, 2023, 07:40:09 AM »
It's official.. the first shul opened in Gaza, by the beach. looking for steady mispalilim to join :)


It’s this weeks parsha. מעשה אבות סימן לבנים. Yitzchak went to Grar, the land of the פלישתים -עזה. There he found מאה שערים. Afterwards the פלישתים came to him begging for a peace treaty.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6379 on: November 15, 2023, 07:40:23 AM »
I think Israel's choice wording of "targeted" operation at the hospital is in case they don't YET have what to show the world to prove Hamas presence there.
Although IMO they should have just said they are going in now solely to evacuate the building