Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread

[Kobe Bryant]

Hamas negotiators have waived the condition of a final ceasefire and the withdrawal of IDF forces from Gaza in the ongoing talks with Israel for a second hostage release.

Talks have "accelerated significantly in recent hours," with "Cairo and Doha making persistent efforts."

The terrorist group is now open  to the release of 40 hostages in exchange for 120 prisoners held by Israel, the report said, adding that Hamas had demanded a one-day ceasefire in exchange for each hostage released, but Israel refused. 

Sources say that Hamas wants the next ceasefire to be longer than the previous exchange, but is open to proceeding along the same lines, i.e. ten women and children hostages released each day in exchange for 30 Arab prisoners, all women and minors, held in Israel on security offenses. - Jerusalem Post

[AsherO]

Hamas negotiators have waived the condition of a final ceasefire and the withdrawal of IDF forces from Gaza in the ongoing talks with Israel for a second hostage release.

Talks have "accelerated significantly in recent hours," with "Cairo and Doha making persistent efforts."

The terrorist group is now open  to the release of 40 hostages in exchange for 120 prisoners held by Israel, the report said, adding that Hamas had demanded a one-day ceasefire in exchange for each hostage released, but Israel refused. 

Sources say that Hamas wants the next ceasefire to be longer than the previous exchange, but is open to proceeding along the same lines, i.e. ten women and children hostages released each day in exchange for 30 Arab prisoners, all women and minors, held in Israel on security offenses. - Jerusalem Post

This means things are getting hot in Khan Yunis.

[yawn]

This can't be good.
https://twitter.com/MOSSADil/status/1742179330606748158

[yfr bachur]

This can't be good.
https://twitter.com/MOSSADil/status/1742179330606748158

If there's "debate", I don't know how you could "definitively determine" anything...

[AsherO]

If there's "debate", I don't know how you could "definitively determine" anything...

There’s evidence, and the debate is as to whether it crosses the definitive threshold.

[AsherO]

Breaking: Explosions in Hezbollah-controlled area in south Beirut, possibly a drone attack. Still developing.

[luckyluck]

https://twitter.com/manniefabian/status/1742219280937099568?t=fIEy7OuuAMHbqcW0USQjRw&s=19

[luckyluck]

https://twitter.com/manniefabian/status/1742222681045418308?t=UmxhIIEaSj2YA5Z4_dIb0A&s=19

[JMHO]

Unconfirmed rumors of 2 hostages rescued alive and on the way to Israel in an armored vehicle.

Source?

[TimT]

כן ירבו
https://twitter.com/gaza_report/status/1742221771254743453

He’s a rival of Sinwar’s

[TimT]

$5 million bounty

https://2017-2021.state.gov/rewards-for-justice-reward-offer-for-information-on-hamas-and-hizballah-key-leaders/

[AsherO]

He’s a rival of Sinwar’s

It sends a strong message to all of Hamas leadership when any of their top people are taking out.

OTOH, doesn't it empower Sinwar to take out his competition?

[yfr bachur]

OTO, doesn't it empower Sinwar to take out his competition?

His mouse tunnel kingdom is getting smaller every day... I wouldn't worry about empowering him, just let 'em know that we'll bop you where ever you raise yo head...

[TimT]

https://twitter.com/gaza_report/status/1742227867021287680

[AsherO]

His mouse tunnel kingdom is getting smaller every day... I wouldn't worry about empowering him, just let 'em know that we'll bop you where ever you raise yo head...

Yes and no, so long as he's the one holding the hostages, we don't want to loosen things in the slightest. Whether it's factual or not, in his mind he's going to survive this.

[yfr bachur]

$5 million bounty

https://2017-2021.state.gov/rewards-for-justice-reward-offer-for-information-on-hamas-and-hizballah-key-leaders/

I think IL can take that as a credit against future ammo 

Yes and no, so long as he's the one holding the hostages, we don't want to loosen things in the slightest. Whether it's factual or not, in his mind he's going to survive this.

Honestly, if we want to get the hostages out safely, he might be right in the near term

[Kobe Bryant]

One of the most significant eliminations in recent years. He is seen in the infamous video of Hamas leaders on OCT 7th.

[TimT]

There was a high-level meeting going on which included Hamas, Islamic Jihad, & others.

[AsherO]

There was a high-level meeting going on which included Hamas, Islamic Jihad, & others.

Cairo last week, or another one in Beirut?

[TimT]

Cairo last week, or another one in Beirut?

The one tonight which the Israelis politely knocked on.