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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9740 on: April 04, 2024, 07:38:24 PM »
Not sure which is more disappointing.

Biden was almost predictable, he's pandering to a Virulently Anti-Israel Base.

What does Trump have to lose by taking a strong moral stance?

Maybe he's just not capable. Expected more.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9741 on: April 04, 2024, 07:45:48 PM »
Weak tea.

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Never thought I'd say that Trump should be following Sen. Fetterman's example on moral clarity standing with Israel.
Trump and moral do not belong in the same post.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9742 on: April 04, 2024, 07:58:32 PM »
Not sure which is more disappointing.

Biden was almost predictable, he's pandering to a Virulently Anti-Israel Base.

What does Trump have to lose by taking a strong moral stance?

Maybe he's just not capable. Expected more.

First of all, never expect more of Trump. On anything. He's a self-serving narcissist and does what he wants, when he wants.

Second, let me flip the question back at you: what does Trump have to gain by taking a hard right stance? He won't gain a single vote. By taking a soft stance, he can only gain.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9743 on: April 04, 2024, 08:24:36 PM »
First of all, never expect more of Trump. On anything. He's a self-serving narcissist and does what he wants, when he wants.

Second, let me flip the question back at you: what does Trump have to gain by taking a hard right stance? He won't gain a single vote. By taking a soft stance, he can only gain.

Im not gonna get into dragged into the politics but if the perception is that Trumps base is just as Anti-Israel as Bidens its truly concerning.

I honestly think he's either misreading the ground or he thinks he can pander to some group on the edge. HH was practically pleading with him to just say he's 100% with Israel.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9744 on: April 04, 2024, 08:40:38 PM »
First of all, never expect more of Trump. On anything. He's a self-serving narcissist and does what he wants, when he wants.
This 100000000+. He is a loose cannon, to put it mildly. He is an unpredictable meshugene who cannot ever be relied on!!

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9745 on: April 04, 2024, 08:45:35 PM »
I agree Trump should have been way more forthcoming in his support for Israel, but it really all depends on who's in his administration. Last time around he surrounded himself with the most pro Israel names you can find, Pompeo, D Friedman, Kushner etc.. It remains to be seen who he surrounds himself with this time... hopefully not the Tucker Carlsons of the world...

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9746 on: April 04, 2024, 08:46:51 PM »
Im not gonna get into dragged into the politics but if the perception is that Trumps base is just as Anti-Israel as Bidens its truly concerning.

I honestly think he's either misreading the ground or he thinks he can pander to some group on the edge. HH was practically pleading with him to just say he's 100% with Israel.

He literally has nothing to gain. Anyone who wants him to take a strong stance is already voting for him. He doesn't lose them by being soft, because their alternative is still Biden. He can only possibly gain by taking a moderate stance.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9747 on: April 04, 2024, 09:04:42 PM »
Did anybody actually listen to the entire interview or are they just reading headlines and articles? I wouldn't be surprised the slightest if what he's being quoted as saying is being taken out of context or only have a quote. It wouldn't be the first time the media has done such a thing.
Hopefully I'll get to watching it later.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9749 on: April 04, 2024, 09:19:43 PM »
He actually made an even stupider comment (presented with a good comeback by Aizenberg):

https://twitter.com/Aizenberg55/status/1775971656621547563

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9753 on: April 04, 2024, 11:15:37 PM »

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9754 on: April 04, 2024, 11:43:45 PM »
For someone who is following, the juxtaposition is egregious:

https://twitter.com/VivianBercovici/status/1775763636155240651

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« Reply #9755 on: April 04, 2024, 11:54:05 PM »
He actually made an even stupider comment (presented with a good comeback by Aizenberg):

https://twitter.com/Aizenberg55/status/1775971656621547563

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #9757 on: April 05, 2024, 07:52:16 AM »
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« Reply #9758 on: April 05, 2024, 08:27:43 AM »
https://archive.is/T8JLv

Been hearing suggestions that the WCK strike (three separate vehicles hundreds of meters apart) was an intelligence setup where Hamas intentionally misinformed Israel.
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« Reply #9759 on: April 05, 2024, 10:23:48 AM »
This is great!


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