Author Topic: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION (Read 733444 times)

yelped · « **Reply #10800 on:** May 21, 2024, 07:31:19 PM »

Quote from: Just A Jew on May 21, 2024, 07:10:08 PM

Don't know how accurate this guy's analysis is, but Egypt is going to be interesting to watch over the coming months.

https://x.com/academic_la/status/1793033512196386933

Don't know, either, but many people have been saying this (across the Israeli political spectrum, this guy is very left).

yelped · « **Reply #10801 on:** May 21, 2024, 09:10:10 PM »

$320 million that was totally unnecessary but to Biden's re-election prospects (to make him look like he's doing something instead of just saying aid can go through the right channels):

https://x.com/laraseligman/status/1792996008684573064

yelped · « **Reply #10802 on:** May 21, 2024, 10:15:23 PM »

ETA: just watched it. Too much posturing and wasting time on irrelevant points to score political points.
https://x.com/BillAckman/status/1793028295258177655

aygart · « **Reply #10803 on:** May 21, 2024, 10:49:06 PM »

Quote from: yelped on May 21, 2024, 10:15:23 PM

ETA: just watched it. Too much posturing and wasting time on irrelevant points to score political points.

Welcome to congressional hearings.

yelped · « **Reply #10804 on:** May 21, 2024, 10:58:40 PM »

Quote from: aygart on May 21, 2024, 10:49:06 PM

Welcome to congressional hearings.

So frustrating. A whole country going to waste and no one to stop it.

TimT · « **Reply #10805 on:** May 21, 2024, 11:03:17 PM »

Fun fact:

Amal Clooney (wife of George Clooney) was on the ICC panel that recommended the arrest warrants. Her uncle is Ziad Takieddine, a major Lebanese arms dealer.

Traveler718 · « **Reply #10806 on:** May 21, 2024, 11:10:01 PM »

https://twitter.com/SonofHas/status/1792677231652995572

Yikes is right! It must have been extremely painful for Hersh's parents, who met with Biden today at the WH and were in the audience listening, hear our senile President who can't even read a teleprompter say that their captive son was there with them.

mevinyavin · « **Reply #10807 on:** May 22, 2024, 04:55:06 AM »

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/390328

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'We were all duped' | Report: Egypt changed terms of Gaza ceasefire deal
Sources tell CNN that Egyptian intelligence quietly changed the terms of ceasefire proposal that Israel had already signed off on, scuttling a hostage release deal.
Israel National News
May 22, 2024, 12:15 AM (GMT+3)

Flash 90
Egyptian intelligence quietly changed the terms of a ceasefire proposal that Israel had already signed off on earlier this month, ultimately scuttling a deal that could have released hostages and Palestinian Arab prisoners, and set a pathway to temporarily end the fighting in Gaza, CNN reported on Tuesday, citing three people familiar with the discussions.

The ceasefire agreement that Hamas said on May 6 it had agreed to was not what the Qataris or the Americans believed had been submitted to Hamas for a potential final review, the sources told the network.

The changes made by Egyptian intelligence, the details of which have not been previously reported, led to a wave of anger and recrimination among officials from the US, Qatar and Israel, and left ceasefire talks at an impasse.

“We were all duped,” one of those sources told CNN.

CIA Director Bill Burns, who has spearheaded the American efforts to broker a ceasefire agreement, was in the region when word reached him that the Egyptians had changed the terms of the deal. Burns was angry and embarrassed, the source said, believing it made him look like he wasn’t in the loop or hadn’t informed the Israelis of the changes.

The soft-spoken and mild-mannered Burns “almost blew a gasket,” the source told CNN.

A CIA spokesperson declined to comment.

Three sources familiar with the matter told CNN that a senior Egyptian intelligence official named Ahmed Abdel Khalek was responsible for making the changes. Abdel Khalek is a senior deputy to the Egyptian intelligence chief Abbas Kamel, who has been Burns’ counterpart in leading Egypt’s mediation in the ceasefire talks.

One source familiar with the negotiations said Abdel Khalek told the Israelis one thing and Hamas another. More of Hamas’ demands were inserted into the original framework that Israel had tacitly agreed to in order to secure Hamas’ approval, the source said. But the other mediators were not informed, nor were the Israelis.

The Egyptian government did not respond to a request for comment.

CNN had previously reported that Hamas demanded that Israel agree to a 12-week ceasefire instead of a six-week ceasefire during the hostage negotiations.

Hamas announced earlier this month that, in light of what it termed as “Israel's refusal” of the proposal of the mediators for a ceasefire and hostage release deal, and amid the Israeli operation in Rafah, it intends to hold consultations with the Palestinian Arab factions and “re-examine” its negotiation strategy.

Mordyk · « **Reply #10808 on:** May 22, 2024, 09:11:36 AM »

Dr. Phil doing an outstanding job

https://youtu.be/oQLCnbHpv-E?si=Z7c05dE-tFTPU-_K

michdude · « **Reply #10809 on:** May 22, 2024, 09:12:18 AM »

Quote from: Traveler718 on May 21, 2024, 11:10:01 PM

Yikes is right! It must have been extremely painful for Hersh's parents, who met with Biden today at the WH and were in the audience listening, hear our senile President who can't even read a teleprompter say that their captive son was there with them.

I truly doubt this affected them much. If they sat with the president, they would have easily perceived that age has taken its toll. Compared to the pain that they live with daily, this is nothing. I know it's useful to score points against Biden, but it's really not so notable other than for highlighting that he is not as sharp as he needs to be considering his responsibilities.

Sammy82 · « **Reply #10810 on:** May 22, 2024, 09:37:32 AM »

Quote from: michdude on May 22, 2024, 09:12:18 AM

I truly doubt this affected them much. If they sat with the president, they would have easily perceived that age has taken its toll. Compared to the pain that they live with daily, this is nothing. I know it's useful to score points against Biden, but it's really not so notable other than for highlighting that he is not as sharp as he needs to be considering his responsibilities.

Not as sharp lol

ExGingi · « **Reply #10811 on:** May 22, 2024, 10:21:09 AM »

https://x.com/catshoshanna/status/1793270036192231475

aygart · « **Reply #10812 on:** May 22, 2024, 10:27:57 AM »

Quote from: mevinyavin on May 22, 2024, 04:55:06 AM

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/390328

Keep in mind all of the different reports from back then about how the US signed off on the changes that had zero pushback. This seems to me more like someone saw the Harvard polls from yesterday.