Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread

[ExGingi]

Labeling those who messed up time and again as "leftists" or any other simple "others" label distracts from the fact that basically the entire political and security establishment has been making the same mistakes over and over again.

I recently read about the period between the overthrow of the Russian Empire and the takeover by the Bolsheviks (the name being a lie - implying that they were the majority, when in fact they were not). Ukrainian socialist tried to establish a socialist democracy. The Bolsheviks took over by force. All extremely reminiscent of the current situation in Israel. The Israeli "right" is also socialist, globalist, etc. Just not as brazen, violent, and anti-democratic as the "left".

Shalit deal (1027:1), which released Sinwar among many other convicted murderers was voted on by the 29 ministers of Bibi's cabinet. 26 for, 3 against. The three against were all "right wing", but Bibi and every Likud member besides Yaalon voted for, as did Shas and Bayit Hayehudi.

This, along with Bibi's recognition of the ICJ, trying to defend actions rather than showing them the middle finger. (And domestically, not firing the entire bureaucrat "legal" apparatus, along with political hacks in the military command) are his gravest sins.

All that being said, any "alternative" presented over the past 3 decades has been a clown, a puppet, or someone full of jealousy and hate. Not one competent alternative has come forth.

[ExGingi]

No, that again limits the blame to a group and not the territory.

Did the territory take action, or did its #IslamoNazi residents?

Last I checked there were #IslamoNazis in many places in the world, including Western Europe and North America.

[AsherO]

Better yet: the #IslamoNazis

Saying Nazi is like saying Hamas. Both are political movements with an antisemitic genocidal ideology/agenda.

[AsherO]

Did the territory take action, or did its #IslamoNazi residents?

By saying Gaza you’re inclusively holding all of its residents accountable for the terror actions. When you say islamonazis it’s ambiguous as to whether that term applies (equally?) to all Gazan residents.

[ExGingi]

Saying Nazi is like saying Hamas. Both are political movements with an antisemitic genocidal ideology/agenda.

As Amjad Taha and Loay Alshareef explain (they call them Islamists) it's an ideology that is rampant in the Muslim world.

[ExGingi]

By saying Gaza you’re inclusively holding all of its residents accountable for the terror actions. When you say islamonazis it’s ambiguous as to whether that term applies (equally?) to all Gazan residents.

On the contrary. #IslamoNazis is not ambiguous at all. It refers to ANYONE that holds that ideology. Anyone who thinks the current war is "retaliation" rather than a war of survival against those that wish they could annihilate all the Jews in EY (and and continue all over the world).

[yelped]

https://x.com/LTCPeterLerner/status/1795096766792053234

[zh cohen]

Better yet: the #IslamoNazis

The point of language is to communicate with someone other than yourself. If you use words like this, which are meaningful to you but are gibberish to the people you are speaking to, you miss the point of speaking in the first place

[yelped]

https://x.com/OsherFeldman/status/1795051392391958571

[gozalim]

The point of language is to communicate with someone other than yourself. If you use words like this, which are meaningful to you but are gibberish to the people you are speaking to, you miss the point of speaking in the first place

+1
even shock jocks, who love using facts that are technically accurate and often overlooked etc. Do it in a calculated attempt to get a rise, a reaction, provoke conversation and thought

I. E. Communication

(#islamoNazis in casual conversation is not that)

[yelped]

Awesome:

https://x.com/HillelNeuer/status/1794863088480747978

[yelped]

One disgusting post after the next from this UN terrorist supporter. This one is next level ungratefulness:

https://x.com/FranceskAlbs/status/1794815498443796868

[Kobe Bryant]

One disgusting post after the next from this UN terrorist supporter. This one is next level ungratefulness:

https://x.com/FranceskAlbs/status/1794815498443796868

The Gaza pier has essentially sunk. it was nothing more than a political ploy at the expense of the American tax payers.

[AsherO]

The Gaza pier has essentially sunk. it was nothing more than a political ploy at the expense of the American tax payers.

That's insane considering how much money the US sunk (pun intended) into this gimmicky project.

BH, hopefully good riddance and not an excuse to build a "bigger/better" one.

[Kobe Bryant]

That's insane considering how much money the US sunk (pun intended) into this gimmicky project.

BH, hopefully good riddance and not an excuse to build a "bigger/better" one.

Approx $250,000,000!

[AsherO]

Israeli TV is reporting that both sides claim the other side started. Also reporting casualties on the Egyptian side, at least one dead and a few injured.

Some more details trickling in:
https://x.com/IsraelRadar_com/status/1795143574608019474

[elazarmn]

Approx $250,000,000!

Currently president group has been throwing around so much money at things just to fluff over like they are “trying” to do something

[aygart]

Did the territory take action, or did its #IslamoNazi residents?

Last I checked there were #IslamoNazis in many places in the world, including Western Europe and North America.

You are so stuck in your hashtag that you totally missed his point.

[yelped]

As expected:

https://x.com/EFischberger/status/1795173687101911369

[yelped]

https://x.com/IzaTabaro/status/1794739699648540955