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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #11561 on: June 23, 2024, 06:35:36 PM »
Biden admin can't stop digging their own hole. Assistant communications director is another something who's only qualifications are belonging to the ABC class and is a rabid anti semite.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #11568 on: June 24, 2024, 06:08:57 PM »
https://x.com/IDF/status/1805281777742921817

No - don't watch. It's unbearable. I can't believe what I'm seeing on this. It's heartbreaking to imagine them going this. I didn't know it was possible to hate the savages more than I did already but they've managed. May their deaths be as wretched as their lives.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #11569 on: June 25, 2024, 01:32:21 AM »
No - don't watch. It's unbearable. I can't believe what I'm seeing on this. It's heartbreaking to imagine them going this. I didn't know it was possible to hate the savages more than I did already but they've managed. May their deaths be as wretched as their lives.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #11571 on: June 25, 2024, 01:39:03 PM »
https://x.com/Isaac_Herzog/status/1805600329175552355

I honestly don't understand why he dresses like this everywhere. I appreciate his moral stand, but I think a more respectable attire is called for.
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« Reply #11572 on: June 25, 2024, 01:48:15 PM »
I honestly don't understand why he dresses like this everywhere. I appreciate his moral stand, but I think a more respectable attire is called for.
Nah, keep the suits and give me moral clarity any day of the week.

He feels uncomfortable in dress clothes. I can live with that.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #11573 on: June 25, 2024, 02:43:35 PM »
Nah, keep the suits and give me moral clarity any day of the week.

He feels unconfutable in dress clothes. I can live with that.

There's a wide range between dress clothes to shorts and a hoodie. I agree about moral clarity, but decorum is important IMHO.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #11574 on: June 25, 2024, 03:17:17 PM »
I'm speaking with EXTREMELY limited knowledge here, but it could be that's part of his "brand" - that he's not pretending to be fancy, he's ignoring conventional demands and dress codes and just focusing on what's important - and what you see is what you get.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #11575 on: June 25, 2024, 04:14:37 PM »
Nah, keep the suits and give me moral clarity any day of the week.


Correct, but we have a lot of people with moral clarity, what we need is prominent and respected peolple who's clarity will influence others. If he dresses always like a farmer and people view him as the meshugener senator then he is less influential than had he dressed and gave off the impression like a normal statesman.

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« Reply #11576 on: June 25, 2024, 04:17:07 PM »
We have a lot of people with moral clarity, what we need is prominent and respected peolple who's clarity will influence others. If he dresses always like a farmer and people view him as the meshugener senator then it's less influential than had he dressed and gave off the impression like a normal statesman.
I'd argue the opposite. We have plenty of statesmen with moral clarity.

Your average American feels like they would want to have a beer with Fetterman, not Rubio or DeSantis. Don't overlook relatability.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #11577 on: June 25, 2024, 04:21:31 PM »
I'd argue the opposite. We have plenty of statesmen with moral clarity.

Your average American feels like they would want to have a beer with Fetterman, not Rubio or DeSantis. Don't overlook relatability.

Perhaps you're right, I'm not out there and that's how I personally viewed him a while ago. Does the average American really relate to his dress code in the senate and on diplomatic visits? Isn't he broadly considered as the funny senator?

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #11578 on: June 25, 2024, 05:11:04 PM »
Is this mode of dress post-stroke? Someone I know could not bear regular clothing after TBI.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #11579 on: June 25, 2024, 05:40:31 PM »
I'm no grammar expert, nor a theological or halachic one. But even a dunce like me knows there's a difference between avenge and revenge; between G-dly vengeance and human revenge. My guess this has nothing to do with any of that, but just a brainless bureaucrat going by the book exactly without an inch of leeway. It's an easy win for the IDF if someone with half a braincell looks at the case and makes a one time exception and then let them revisit the rules.

As expected, this will be resolved by legislation. There are proposals in the works right now.

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