Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread

[aygart]

https://www.axios.com/2024/08/02/biden-netanyahu-call-israel-iran-hezbollah

[yelped]

https://www.axios.com/2024/08/02/biden-netanyahu-call-israel-iran-hezbollah

From the same President who didn't even say thank you for eliminating the person responsible for murdering 241 of our servicemen in Beirut, and for waiving the death penalty for the masterminds behind 9/11.

[ah giten]

From the same President who didn't even say thank you for eliminating the person responsible for murdering 241 of our servicemen in Beirut, and for waiving the death penalty for the masterminds behind 9/11.

Biden is now busy scoring points in the eye of the public, either for his image, or for Harris. He doesn't care about anything besides that.

[Dan]

https://x.com/aryeyoeli/status/1819323965879255304?s=19

[ExGingi]

https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1819429081353539939

[JMHO]

And another murderer:

https://x.com/DrEliDavid/status/1819392907511472521

At what point do they make a new deck of cards

[jj1000]

At what point do they make a new deck of cards

imyh never.

[Chuchum Ainer]

Everyone is suddenly a top commander
I'm glad they're finally taking the gloves off, but the removal of Haniyeh, Shukr, and everyone else whose names we never heard of till now, isn't going to ensure Israel's long term security.

Mow the lawn vs uproot the weeds.

[aygart]

Everyone is suddenly a top commander
I'm glad they're finally taking the gloves off, but the removal of Haniyeh, Shukr, and everyone else whose names we never heard of till now, isn't going to ensure Israel's long term security.

Mow the lawn vs uproot the weeds.

There is an argument to be made that the best strategy is to make sure there is no successor to fill in and only them kill the top

[yelped]

There is an argument to be made that the best strategy is to make sure there is no successor to fill in and only them kill the top

Especially when it allows you to get everyone. If they got the top right away, they would have been forced to keep a lot of the infrastructure existing in Gaza.

[Chuchum Ainer]

I guess I mixed up two points at once, my point us unclear

One, it's cute how they keep eliminating "top commanders", it's a ridiculous pr spin.

Two, no matter how many actual top commanders you eliminate, there will always be someone to take their place. Yes, you may shake them for a bit, maybe a few years, but it's not a permanent solution. Like mowing the grass. Gives you a nice lawn, lasts a certain amount of time and you gotta do it again.

As part of a multi pronged strategy, sure, scare the Iranians and Lebanese and Syrians with your amazing capabilities, and drain some of the charisma from the upper levels.
But without changing the facts on the ground at the same time, you aren't helping. Hezbollah is still arrayed against Israel. Gazans still hate Israel and are willing to use any drop of aid they get to hurt Israel instead of helping themselves.

Forget about the fact that they haven't taken out sinwar or Nasrallah yet.

[ExGingi]

I guess I mixed up two points at once, my point us unclear

One, it's cute how they keep eliminating "top commanders", it's a ridiculous pr spin.

Two, no matter how many actual top commanders you eliminate, there will always be someone to take their place. Yes, you may shake them for a bit, maybe a few years, but it's not a permanent solution. Like mowing the grass. Gives you a nice lawn, lasts a certain amount of time and you gotta do it again.

As part of a multi pronged strategy, sure, scare the Iranians and Lebanese and Syrians with your amazing capabilities, and drain some of the charisma from the upper levels.
But without changing the facts on the ground at the same time, you aren't helping. Hezbollah is still arrayed against Israel. Gazans still hate Israel and are willing to use any drop of aid they get to hurt Israel instead of helping themselves.

Forget about the fact that they haven't taken out sinwar or Nasrallah yet.

Just remember that Nazi Germany surrendered after Hitler was dead.

The strategy is to get them to surrender, one way or another.

[sds1493]

I guess I mixed up two points at once, my point us unclear

One, it's cute how they keep eliminating "top commanders", it's a ridiculous pr spin.

Two, no matter how many actual top commanders you eliminate, there will always be someone to take their place. Yes, you may shake them for a bit, maybe a few years, but it's not a permanent solution. Like mowing the grass. Gives you a nice lawn, lasts a certain amount of time and you gotta do it again.

As part of a multi pronged strategy, sure, scare the Iranians and Lebanese and Syrians with your amazing capabilities, and drain some of the charisma from the upper levels.
But without changing the facts on the ground at the same time, you aren't helping. Hezbollah is still arrayed against Israel. Gazans still hate Israel and are willing to use any drop of aid they get to hurt Israel instead of helping themselves.

Forget about the fact that they haven't taken out sinwar or Nasrallah yet.

What is your plan?

[Kobe Bryant]

Everyone is suddenly a top commander
I'm glad they're finally taking the gloves off, but the removal of Haniyeh, Shukr, and everyone else whose names we never heard of till now, isn't going to ensure Israel's long term security.

Mow the lawn vs uproot the weeds.

The fact that you never heard “these names”, just means you are unfamiliar with the terror groups in the ME!

[AsherO]

Gut voch, reports of air strike assassination attempt of Hamas spokesperson Abu Obaida (ace of spaces A♠️), hopefully it’s true and was successful.

Major US naval presence in the Middle East. US and UK tell their citizens to leave Lebanon, and Canada warns against travel to the US Israel.

Will IYH be a good week, keep saying tehillim:
https://x.com/lookner/status/1819901532965368000

[AsherO]

https://x.com/lookner/status/1819901532965368000

But also:
https://x.com/verminusm/status/1819902720997798299

Which begs the question, when is next Monday?

[Yo ssi]

Canada warns against travel to the US.

?

[aygart]

But also:
https://x.com/verminusm/status/1819902720997798299

Which begs the question, when is next Monday?

This reminds me of when the Persians wanted to kill all the Jews in the month that Moshe died

[Chuchum Ainer]

The fact that you never heard “these names”, just means you are unfamiliar with the terror groups in the ME!

You knew of "Ali Abd Ali, prominent operative in Hezbollah’s Southern Front"?
I obviously wasn't referring to haniyeh

[yuneeq]

But also:
https://x.com/verminusm/status/1819902720997798299

These Iranian threats are meaningless. As if they ever needed an excuse to attack Israel. And if they were able to attack they would just do so without resorting to threats.