Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread

[AsherO]

No. They used regular vehicles and trucks to traverse it.

Why no tire tracks?

[yuneeq]

Do you think Iran will not launch missiles at Israel in the coming days? Do you not consider it an attack?

Maybe I can say it better. I don’t think the threats change the reality, that’s all. They’ll do what they want to and are capable of, regardless of what they threaten and regardless of how Israel treats the threat.

[Alexsei]

Maybe I can say it better. I don’t think the threats change the reality, that’s all. They’ll do what they want to and are capable of, regardless of what they threaten and regardless of how Israel treats the threat.

How do you define "capable"? Is there a chance they can do a lot more than what they did but hold back because of the consequences? What if they take a step out of extreme כעס despite the consequences?

[aygart]

מִי זֶה בָּא מֵאֱדוֹם חֲמוּץ בְּגָדִים מִבָּצְרָה זֶה הָדוּר בִּלְבוּשׁוֹ צֹעֶה בְּרֹב כֹּחוֹ אֲנִי מְדַבֵּר בִּצְדָקָה רַב לְהוֹשִׁיעַ.

[imayid2]

I don’t get this sitting duck strategy.

Presumably Iran is expecting Israel to wait for its attacks before Israel responds. Therefore Israel should launch a massive unexpected offensive and cripple Irans capabilities to attack it. They are threatening a large attack, they carried out their threat last time. Just cut off the head of the serpent already.

[PlatinumGuy]

I don’t get this sitting duck strategy.

Presumably Iran is expecting Israel to wait for its attacks before Israel responds. Therefore Israel should launch a massive unexpected offensive and cripple Irans capabilities to attack it. They are threatening a large attack, they carried out their threat last time. Just cut off the head of the serpent already.

Imagine if the Iranians are angry enough to actually attack US assets...

In any case, the missiles launcher are mobile and dispersed, Israel can't disable all of them even if they wanted to.

Israel isn't as powerful as you think it is, they depend on air superiority and the planes need new US parts almost every take off. 

[EliJelly]

I don’t get this sitting duck strategy.

Presumably Iran is expecting Israel to wait for its attacks before Israel responds. Therefore Israel should launch a massive unexpected offensive and cripple Irans capabilities to attack it. They are threatening a large attack, they carried out their threat last time. Just cut off the head of the serpent already.

Last time their missiles were mostly shot down. IMO Iran is just a roaring tiger who threatens more and do very little but still dangerous when cornered. Israel can exploit this time to form again a collision which will take down successfully the missiles when they'll launch their attack, and Iran will hunker down again telling their populace how successful their attack was. Going on the offensive with a major all out attack is extremely dangerous when dealing with jihads. Remember that shooting down short range missiles is much harder and they can send a barrage of thousands of these from Lebanon all over Israel C"V. 

[aygart]

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1820211558909157790

[aygart]

Also,

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1820214394128912738

[Something Fishy]

DDF: next Wednesday

[dovy2]

Last time their missiles were mostly shot down. IMO Iran is just a roaring tiger who threatens more and do very little but still dangerous when cornered. Israel can exploit this time to form again a collision which will take down successfully the missiles when they'll launch their attack, and Iran will hunker down again telling their populace how successful their attack was. Going on the offensive with a major all out attack is extremely dangerous when dealing with jihads. Remember that shooting down short range missiles is much harder and they can send a barrage of thousands of these from Lebanon all over Israel C"V.

I say they take out the Nucuelar sites.. and bring back their capabilities 10 years or so

[EliJelly]

I say they take out the Nucuelar sites.. and bring back their capabilities 10 years or so

I don't think Israel can attack their nuclear facilities without US help.

[AsherO]

DDF: next Wednesday

Which begs the question, when is next Monday?

[Alexsei]

I guess it's everyone's understanding that Iran will respond, the question isn't if but when

[EliJelly]

I guess it's everyone's understanding that Iran will respond, the question isn't if but when

More importantly, how.

[yfr bachur]

I guess it's everyone's understanding that Iran will respond, the question isn't if but when

More importantly, how.

My fear is that the attack will be something not thought of/prepared for.

[jj1000]

My fear is that the attack will be something not thought of/prepared for.

To that end.

Is it possible for Iran to get nuclear weapons without Israel or the US knowing?

[WayBackMachine]

guys give us the last chapter please, thanks

[Alexsei]

More importantly, how.

Did the assassination directly hit Iran? Or was it merely on Iranian soil? I understand that Hamas is a "proxy"  of Iran, in that case they would have their proxy retaliate, why is it a must for them to directly respond?

[yfr bachur]

Is it possible for Iran to get nuclear weapons without Israel or the US knowing?

depends on how well the Iranian nuclear program is infiltrated by western spies.
In theory, they should be able to.

Then there's the question of delivery vehicle. A missile is not the 100% success it was once assumed to be.

guys give us the last chapter please, thanks

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