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Here is a site with updated list of airlines flying or not flying:
https://www.passportcard.co.il/article/airlines-at-war/
in Hebrew

If it says, for example:
לא (כל הטיסות מבוטלות עד ל05.09)

It means as of now they are not flying until Dec. 5, not including, meaning they are set to restart on Dec 5.

Many airlines keep on pushing off the restart date.

Airlines flying and cities currently served to TLV - as of 11/11/24 (from the passportcard site, ones verified by the DDMS are in Blue)

ELAL - Network includes (not checked for active service): Europe: Vienna Brussels Sofia Zagreb Larnaca Paphos Prague Lyon Marseille Nice Paris Batumi Tbilisi Berlin Frankfurt Munich Athens Kefalonia Patras-Peloponnese Rhodes Santorini Sitia (Crete) Thessaloniki Budapest Dublin Milan Naples Rome Venice Chisinau Podgorica Tivat Amsterdam Krakow Warsaw Lisbon Porto Bucharest Moscow Belgrade Ljubljana Barcelona Madrid Geneva Zurich London
NA:  Toronto Boston Fort Lauderdale, Miami Area Los Angeles Miami New York
Arkia
IsraAir - Network includes (not checked for active service): Tel Aviv Athens Barcelona Batumi Berlin Bucharest Budapest Chisinau Dubai Larnaca Lisbon London Paphos Prague Rome Rovaniemi Sofia Tbilisi Tivat Varna Verona Warsaw Zanzibar (havent checked what is current)
Air Haifa
- Larnaca

Air Seychelles
Azimuth Airlines
Blue Bird Airways - Athens, Barcelona, Berlin, Budapest, Larnaka, Prague, Sofia, Vienna
Cyprus Airways - Larnaka
Ethiopian Airlines - Adis Ababa   
Etihad Airways - Abu Dahbi
FlyDubai - Dubai

Georgian Airways - Tibilisi
Hainan Airlines   - Shenzhen
HiSKy - Bucharest, Chisinau

Red Wings - Sochi, Zhukovskiy, Moskow
Smartwings -Prague
Tarom - Bucharest
Tus Airways -  Larnaka, Barcelona , Sofia, Vienna
   
Uzbekistan Airways

List sorted by destination airport code (for those who prefer this format) - Last updated 11/13
Note that daily refers to flights but not necessarily airlines. List derived from Ben Gurion flight boards but is only from Ben Gurion. Still, flights usually run both ways (anyone want to write this in, fine, but I'm done). Feel free to correct or add to the list, especially when an airline starts flying - but change the date the list was updated. North America in bold.

Addis Ababa, Ethiopia (ADD) - Ethiopian (Daily)
Sochi, Russia (AER) - Red Wings, Azimuth (Daily)
Amsterdam (AMS) - El Al (Daily)
Athens (ATH) - Arkia, El Al, Blue Bird, Israir (Daily - as many as ten flights a day)
Abu Dhabi (AUH) - Etihad (Daily)
Barcelona (BCN) - El Al, Blue Bird (Daily except Saturday) (Israir?)
Belgrade, Serbia (BEG) - El Al (Sun D'Or) (Mon, Wed, Fri)
Berlin (BER) - Blue Bird, El Al, Israir (Daily except Saturday)
Bangkhok (BKK) - El Al (daily except Friday)
Boston (BOS) - El Al (Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday until March - from April: Sunday, Monday, Wednesday and Thursday)
Budapest (BUD) - El Al, Arkia, Blue Bird, Israir (Daily except Saturday)
Batumi, Georgia (BUS) - Arkia, Israir, El Al (Daily)
Paris (CDG, see below for ORY) - Arkia, El Al (Sun, Mon, Wed, Thurs)
Moscow (DME) - Red Wings, El Al (Most days)
Dubai (DXB) - Israir, Flydubai, Arkia, El Al (Daily, often more than 10x)
Newark (EWR) - El Al (Sun-Fri)
Rome (FCO) - El Al, Arkia, Israir (Sun-Fri)
Fort Lauderdale (FLL) - El Al (no November flights for sale, selling Mon and Fri in December)
Frankfurt (FRA) - El Al (Mostly sold out but you might get lucky)
Phuket, Thailand (HKT) - El Al (Mon, Tues, Thurs)
JFK - El Al (Sun-Fri)
Chisinau, Moldova (KIV/RMO) - HiSky, FLYONE, El Al (Sun D'Or) (Daily except Fri)
Krakow (KRK) - El Al, Israir (currently Mon, Wed, Fri)
Los Angeles (LAX) - El Al (Sun-Fri)
Lanarca, Cyprus (LCA) - Tus, Arkia, Cyprus, Israir, Blue Bird, El Al (Sun D'Or)
Liege, Belgium (LGG) - Shows on flight board as El Al (chartered) and Challenge, but I don't see any for sale on GF
London (LHR, see below for LTN) - El Al (Sun-Fri)
Lisbon (LIS) - El Al, limited dates
Ljubljana, Slovenia (LJU) - Shows on flight boars as Israir, but no flights for sale on GF
London (LTN, see above for LHR) - El Al, Israir (Daily)
Madrid (MAD) - El Al, limited dates (?)
Manchester (MAN) - Arkia (Monday, Thursday, at least for now)
Miami (MIA) - El Al (Sun, Tues, Wed, Thurs)
Munich (MUC) - El Al (limited flights)
Milan (MXP) - Arkia, El Al (Sun, Tues, Thurs)
Tokyo (NRT) - El Al (currently Motzei Shabbos, Monday and Wed - next month no Mon)
Paris (ORY) - Transavia (listed on flight boards, but for sale only in December)
Bucharest (OTP) - El Al, Israir, Tarom, Bees, HiSky (Most days)
Paphos (PFO) - El Al (Sun D'Or), Israir (Random days)
Prague (PRG) - Arkia, Smartwings, Blue Bird, El Al, Israir (Daily)
Suceava, Romania - Bees (Sporadic schedule)
Thessaloniki (SKG) - El Al (Sun D'Or) (Sun, Mon, Wed, Thurs)
Sofia, Bulgaria (SOF) - El Al, Arkia, Tus, Blue Bird, Israir (Many days)
Shenzen, China (SZX) - Hainan (sporadic)
Tashkent, Uzbekistan (TAS) - Uzbekistan (Mon-Thurs)
Tbilisi, Georgia (TBS) - Arkia, Israir, El Al (Sun D'Or), Georgian (Daily)
Podgorica, Montenegro (TGD) - El AL (Sun D'Or) (Thursday, Sunday)
Vienna (VIE) - Tus, Arkia, Blue Bird (currently Mon, Wed, Fri)
Warsaw (WAW) - El Al, Israir, Arkia (Sun-Fri)
Zhukovsky, Russia - Red Wings (Sun, Tues, Thurs)
Zhurich - El Al (Sporadic availability)

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #120 on: October 10, 2023, 04:43:27 PM »
I have a few siblings scheduled to come back to Israel from Newark, booked on LX & LH. What’s the best strategy?
If I am reading this correctly as EWR-TLV there should be space available on LY with fixed price
Ask LX-LH for a refund due to cancellation and rebook

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #121 on: October 10, 2023, 05:26:29 PM »
If I am reading this correctly as EWR-TLV there should be space available on LY with fixed price
Ask LX-LH for a refund due to cancellation and rebook

There should be lots of EWR>TLV space opening as bachurim cancel.
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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #122 on: October 10, 2023, 05:30:05 PM »
No idea, wishing you luck. Have a plan for what you’ll do from VRN onward, as it isn’t a major airport and doesn’t have onward connections to the USA.
First let me and family get out of Israel...
I can either drive to MXP, or stay over shabbos in Venice.

I also booked Monday morning ElAl to Naples. And Sunday night Emirates to Dubai, Milan then JFK

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #123 on: October 10, 2023, 05:35:06 PM »
There should be lots of EWR>TLV space opening as bachurim cancel.
Just cancelled my nephew’s flight…

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #124 on: October 10, 2023, 05:42:52 PM »
Just cancelled my nephew’s flight…
LY?
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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #126 on: October 10, 2023, 05:53:01 PM »
The simplest solution is for the israeli transport authoroties to arrange with a relativlely near by airport (like Larnaca) for that to be a transffer location for TLV flights. Delta jfk-to that city, transfer to israeli flagged plane to TLV.

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #127 on: October 10, 2023, 06:14:52 PM »
Countries with rescue flights so far:
1. Argentina
2. Brazil
3. Chile
4. Fiji (Fiji!!)
5. Germany
6. Iceland
7. Italy
8. Netherlands
9. Poland
10. Spain

Added 10/11:
11. Australia
12. Canada
13. France
14. Thailand


Countries with nothing but crickets:
1. United States

Absolutely pathetic.
« Last Edit: October 11, 2023, 12:24:29 PM by Something Fishy »
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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #128 on: October 10, 2023, 06:15:13 PM »
These are the flights I know of; there are likely others. Some are operating from nearby countries (Cyprus, Jordan, etc.) with a ferry system, and most are on government or air force aircraft.
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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #131 on: October 10, 2023, 06:37:52 PM »
faster than USA government.

https://lalechet.com/oct12

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #132 on: October 10, 2023, 06:45:45 PM »
faster than USA government.

https://lalechet.com/oct12

great idea, but could still be canceled (for the same reasons the majors wont do it)

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #133 on: October 10, 2023, 06:46:02 PM »
AA Twitter says its not true
Which account ? I hadn’t seen anything from them.

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #134 on: October 10, 2023, 06:47:28 PM »
Which account ? I hadn’t seen anything from them.

Someone on airliners.net DMd them for confirmation and was told it's not true.
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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #135 on: October 10, 2023, 06:50:01 PM »
There should be lots of EWR>TLV space opening as bachurim cancel.
Are most bochurim not going back to Israel for next zeman?

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #136 on: October 10, 2023, 06:53:12 PM »
Are most bochurim not going back to Israel for next zeman?

My understanding is that most are pushing it off right now and most Roshei Yeshiva are telling their talmidim to wait, especially those going now for the first time.
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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #137 on: October 10, 2023, 07:03:08 PM »
The simplest solution is for the israeli transport authoroties to arrange with a relativlely near by airport (like Larnaca) for that to be a transffer location for TLV flights. Delta jfk-to that city, transfer to israeli flagged plane to TLV.

LCA doesn't have direct flights to the US AFAIK. I would guess that ATH, FCO, or IST are better options to find onward flights.
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