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Here is a site with updated list of airlines flying or not flying:
https://www.passportcard.co.il/article/airlines-at-war/
in Hebrew

If it says, for example:
לא (כל הטיסות מבוטלות עד ל05.09)

It means as of now they are not flying until Dec. 5, not including, meaning they are set to restart on Dec 5.

Many airlines keep on pushing off the restart date.

Airlines flying and cities currently served to TLV - as of 11/11/24 (from the passportcard site, ones verified by the DDMS are in Blue)

ELAL - Network includes (not checked for active service): Europe: Vienna Brussels Sofia Zagreb Larnaca Paphos Prague Lyon Marseille Nice Paris Batumi Tbilisi Berlin Frankfurt Munich Athens Kefalonia Patras-Peloponnese Rhodes Santorini Sitia (Crete) Thessaloniki Budapest Dublin Milan Naples Rome Venice Chisinau Podgorica Tivat Amsterdam Krakow Warsaw Lisbon Porto Bucharest Moscow Belgrade Ljubljana Barcelona Madrid Geneva Zurich London
NA:  Toronto Boston Fort Lauderdale, Miami Area Los Angeles Miami New York
Arkia
IsraAir - Network includes (not checked for active service): Tel Aviv Athens Barcelona Batumi Berlin Bucharest Budapest Chisinau Dubai Larnaca Lisbon London Paphos Prague Rome Rovaniemi Sofia Tbilisi Tivat Varna Verona Warsaw Zanzibar (havent checked what is current)
Air Haifa
- Larnaca

Air Seychelles
Azimuth Airlines
Blue Bird Airways - Athens, Barcelona, Berlin, Budapest, Larnaka, Prague, Sofia, Vienna
Cyprus Airways - Larnaka
Ethiopian Airlines - Adis Ababa   
Etihad Airways - Abu Dahbi
FlyDubai - Dubai

Georgian Airways - Tibilisi
Hainan Airlines   - Shenzhen
HiSKy - Bucharest, Chisinau

Red Wings - Sochi, Zhukovskiy, Moskow
Smartwings -Prague
Tarom - Bucharest
Tus Airways -  Larnaka, Barcelona , Sofia, Vienna
   
Uzbekistan Airways

List sorted by destination airport code (for those who prefer this format) - Last updated 11/13
Note that daily refers to flights but not necessarily airlines. List derived from Ben Gurion flight boards but is only from Ben Gurion. Still, flights usually run both ways (anyone want to write this in, fine, but I'm done). Feel free to correct or add to the list, especially when an airline starts flying - but change the date the list was updated. North America in bold.

Addis Ababa, Ethiopia (ADD) - Ethiopian (Daily)
Sochi, Russia (AER) - Red Wings, Azimuth (Daily)
Amsterdam (AMS) - El Al (Daily)
Athens (ATH) - Arkia, El Al, Blue Bird, Israir (Daily - as many as ten flights a day)
Abu Dhabi (AUH) - Etihad (Daily)
Barcelona (BCN) - El Al, Blue Bird (Daily except Saturday) (Israir?)
Belgrade, Serbia (BEG) - El Al (Sun D'Or) (Mon, Wed, Fri)
Berlin (BER) - Blue Bird, El Al, Israir (Daily except Saturday)
Bangkhok (BKK) - El Al (daily except Friday)
Boston (BOS) - El Al (Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday until March - from April: Sunday, Monday, Wednesday and Thursday)
Budapest (BUD) - El Al, Arkia, Blue Bird, Israir (Daily except Saturday)
Batumi, Georgia (BUS) - Arkia, Israir, El Al (Daily)
Paris (CDG, see below for ORY) - Arkia, El Al (Sun, Mon, Wed, Thurs)
Moscow (DME) - Red Wings, El Al (Most days)
Dubai (DXB) - Israir, Flydubai, Arkia, El Al (Daily, often more than 10x)
Newark (EWR) - El Al (Sun-Fri)
Rome (FCO) - El Al, Arkia, Israir (Sun-Fri)
Fort Lauderdale (FLL) - El Al (no November flights for sale, selling Mon and Fri in December)
Frankfurt (FRA) - El Al (Mostly sold out but you might get lucky)
Phuket, Thailand (HKT) - El Al (Mon, Tues, Thurs)
JFK - El Al (Sun-Fri)
Chisinau, Moldova (KIV/RMO) - HiSky, FLYONE, El Al (Sun D'Or) (Daily except Fri)
Krakow (KRK) - El Al, Israir (currently Mon, Wed, Fri)
Los Angeles (LAX) - El Al (Sun-Fri)
Lanarca, Cyprus (LCA) - Tus, Arkia, Cyprus, Israir, Blue Bird, El Al (Sun D'Or)
Liege, Belgium (LGG) - Shows on flight board as El Al (chartered) and Challenge, but I don't see any for sale on GF
London (LHR, see below for LTN) - El Al (Sun-Fri)
Lisbon (LIS) - El Al, limited dates
Ljubljana, Slovenia (LJU) - Shows on flight boars as Israir, but no flights for sale on GF
London (LTN, see above for LHR) - El Al, Israir (Daily)
Madrid (MAD) - El Al, limited dates (?)
Manchester (MAN) - Arkia (Monday, Thursday, at least for now)
Miami (MIA) - El Al (Sun, Tues, Wed, Thurs)
Munich (MUC) - El Al (limited flights)
Milan (MXP) - Arkia, El Al (Sun, Tues, Thurs)
Tokyo (NRT) - El Al (currently Motzei Shabbos, Monday and Wed - next month no Mon)
Paris (ORY) - Transavia (listed on flight boards, but for sale only in December)
Bucharest (OTP) - El Al, Israir, Tarom, Bees, HiSky (Most days)
Paphos (PFO) - El Al (Sun D'Or), Israir (Random days)
Prague (PRG) - Arkia, Smartwings, Blue Bird, El Al, Israir (Daily)
Suceava, Romania - Bees (Sporadic schedule)
Thessaloniki (SKG) - El Al (Sun D'Or) (Sun, Mon, Wed, Thurs)
Sofia, Bulgaria (SOF) - El Al, Arkia, Tus, Blue Bird, Israir (Many days)
Shenzen, China (SZX) - Hainan (sporadic)
Tashkent, Uzbekistan (TAS) - Uzbekistan (Mon-Thurs)
Tbilisi, Georgia (TBS) - Arkia, Israir, El Al (Sun D'Or), Georgian (Daily)
Podgorica, Montenegro (TGD) - El AL (Sun D'Or) (Thursday, Sunday)
Vienna (VIE) - Tus, Arkia, Blue Bird (currently Mon, Wed, Fri)
Warsaw (WAW) - El Al, Israir, Arkia (Sun-Fri)
Zhukovsky, Russia - Red Wings (Sun, Tues, Thurs)
Zhurich - El Al (Sporadic availability)

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1240 on: August 06, 2024, 11:01:19 AM »

My flight is 8/21 booked with Delta via Priceline. I spent already hours on the phone with Delta most reps are claiming that the flight is not canceled yet, and they can't place me on ElAl.
I argue with them that it's all over the news that Delta canceled till September, but so far I speak to a wall.
Anyone has an official Memo from Delta where I can refer to?

https://news.delta.com/delta-pause-flights-between-new-york-jfk-and-tel-aviv-through-august-31

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1243 on: August 06, 2024, 11:20:00 AM »
Problem is that all reps keep on saying that they still see the flights scheduled.
I am doing every hour HUCA, I make every rep placing on my reservation a note that I called, I am scared that ElAl inventory gets to null. It's 8 passengers reserved individually with separate PNR and I prefer having 1 flight for all. בדיעבד I can split half family with my wife and half with me etc...
But so far no luck. They claim news is fake news...
Spoke to over 5 separate reps... frustrating..
I am a medallion gold member, but I booked with Priceline.  1 reps said that since I booked with Priceline they have to request the change...

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1244 on: August 06, 2024, 12:50:47 PM »
Burech Hashem I am now on the phone, and after an hour, I am being booked on AF. Return flight they had available on ElAl for all 8 on 1 flight. That's is for Sept 2 when DL & UA didn't officially cancel yet, that's why El Al has enough availability.
Now let's hope AF will fly Aug 22. Hopefully this whole scare from Iran should be over by than.

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1245 on: August 06, 2024, 01:05:37 PM »
Booked DL points on LY for this week, but want to go later, DL says they can't change to anything that is not an award, and there is no availability. Any way around this?

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1246 on: August 06, 2024, 01:20:30 PM »
From my experience HUCA. Ideally you should try to get to Global Specialist, as the regular agents probably don't even know that there is a war now in Israel....
They kept asking me where I got the news from etc..
I guess non-jews are not so invested and informed in this Middle East situation.

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1247 on: August 06, 2024, 01:52:24 PM »
Thoughts on whether once the war really starts whether we will see ElAl availability because of people cancelling? Have two tickets that I had to move to September 7 for JFK-TLV that I really need to be a week earlier
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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1248 on: August 06, 2024, 05:49:27 PM »
I had family that was on a cancelled UA84 flight on Sunday.  They requested a refund and UA came back and said that since their outbound happened to be a an expensive premium economy ticket there was no residual value to be returned when this was converted to a one way ticket.  Anyone ever faced this ridiculous response from UA and had luck resolving?



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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1249 on: August 06, 2024, 05:54:41 PM »
Thoughts on whether once the war really starts whether we will see ElAl availability because of people cancelling? Have two tickets that I had to move to September 7 for JFK-TLV that I really need to be a week earlier
The days after Oct 7th were busier than now. A lot of Israelis return home during war
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1250 on: August 06, 2024, 06:30:40 PM »
My flight is 8/21 booked with Delta via Priceline. I spent already hours on the phone with Delta most reps are claiming that the flight is not canceled yet, and they can't place me on ElAl.
I argue with them that it's all over the news that Delta canceled till September, but so far I speak to a wall.
Anyone has an official Memo from Delta where I can refer to?
From deltas website:
Waiver Codes and PNR Documentation*


Cabin to Cabin Waiver Code: L5E9L
Change Fee/Basic Economy Cancellation Charge Waiver Code: T3L2A
Used to waive change fee or Basic Economy cancellation charge, if applicable

PNR must be documented with OSI: CHANGES PER IL SECURITY 07OCT23
Waiver Code Placement:

Place in the ticket designator field if no other ticket designator is being used
If another ticket designator is being used, place in the tour code field
If the tour code box is already in use, place in the first position of the endorsement box

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1251 on: August 06, 2024, 07:06:21 PM »
From deltas website:
Waiver Codes and PNR Documentation*


Cabin to Cabin Waiver Code: L5E9L
Change Fee/Basic Economy Cancellation Charge Waiver Code: T3L2A
Used to waive change fee or Basic Economy cancellation charge, if applicable

PNR must be documented with OSI: CHANGES PER IL SECURITY 07OCT23
Waiver Code Placement:

Place in the ticket designator field if no other ticket designator is being used
If another ticket designator is being used, place in the tour code field
If the tour code box is already in use, place in the first position of the endorsement box
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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1252 on: August 06, 2024, 08:17:45 PM »
I have a Delta flight on 9/1 JFK TLV.
Anything they will do now proactively or they will tell me that flight is not cancelled (yet)?

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1253 on: August 07, 2024, 02:37:42 AM »
I have a Delta flight on 9/1 JFK TLV.
Anything they will do now proactively or they will tell me that flight is not cancelled (yet)?
Waiver is in place until the 6th so in theory if the space is there.....

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1254 on: August 07, 2024, 05:31:18 AM »



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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1255 on: August 07, 2024, 05:59:45 AM »
My flight is 8/21 booked with Delta via Priceline. I spent already hours on the phone with Delta most reps are claiming that the flight is not canceled yet, and they can't place me on ElAl.
I argue with them that it's all over the news that Delta canceled till September, but so far I speak to a wall.
Anyone has an official Memo from Delta where I can refer to?
IME Delta was unwilling to rebook until it is cancelled

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1256 on: August 07, 2024, 10:39:32 AM »
IME Delta was unwilling to rebook until it is cancelled
Really strange. I’ve rebooked or helped rebook ten people, most in the first few days even before any flights were cancelled. The moment I said the words travel waiver, it was smooth sailing

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1257 on: August 07, 2024, 01:25:53 PM »
Would United Rebook (EWR - TLV) Via Athens on Emirates Codeshare with Aegean
The timing works out better for ELAL Flights

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1258 on: August 07, 2024, 01:31:24 PM »
Would United Rebook (EWR - TLV) Via Athens on Emirates Codeshare with Aegean
The timing works out better for ELAL Flights
Depends on the agent but most won't

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1259 on: August 07, 2024, 01:45:58 PM »
Depends on the agent but most won't
So if i HUCA there is a chance?