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Here is a site with updated list of airlines flying or not flying:
https://www.passportcard.co.il/article/airlines-at-war/
in Hebrew

If it says, for example:
לא (כל הטיסות מבוטלות עד ל05.09)

It means as of now they are not flying until Dec. 5, not including, meaning they are set to restart on Dec 5.

Many airlines keep on pushing off the restart date.

Airlines flying and cities currently served to TLV - as of 11/11/24 (from the passportcard site, ones verified by the DDMS are in Blue)

ELAL - Network includes (not checked for active service): Europe: Vienna Brussels Sofia Zagreb Larnaca Paphos Prague Lyon Marseille Nice Paris Batumi Tbilisi Berlin Frankfurt Munich Athens Kefalonia Patras-Peloponnese Rhodes Santorini Sitia (Crete) Thessaloniki Budapest Dublin Milan Naples Rome Venice Chisinau Podgorica Tivat Amsterdam Krakow Warsaw Lisbon Porto Bucharest Moscow Belgrade Ljubljana Barcelona Madrid Geneva Zurich London
NA:  Toronto Boston Fort Lauderdale, Miami Area Los Angeles Miami New York
Arkia
IsraAir - Network includes (not checked for active service): Tel Aviv Athens Barcelona Batumi Berlin Bucharest Budapest Chisinau Dubai Larnaca Lisbon London Paphos Prague Rome Rovaniemi Sofia Tbilisi Tivat Varna Verona Warsaw Zanzibar (havent checked what is current)
Air Haifa
- Larnaca

Air Seychelles
Azimuth Airlines
Blue Bird Airways - Athens, Barcelona, Berlin, Budapest, Larnaka, Prague, Sofia, Vienna
Cyprus Airways - Larnaka
Ethiopian Airlines - Adis Ababa   
Etihad Airways - Abu Dahbi
FlyDubai - Dubai

Georgian Airways - Tibilisi
Hainan Airlines   - Shenzhen
HiSKy - Bucharest, Chisinau

Red Wings - Sochi, Zhukovskiy, Moskow
Smartwings -Prague
Tarom - Bucharest
Tus Airways -  Larnaka, Barcelona , Sofia, Vienna
   
Uzbekistan Airways

List sorted by destination airport code (for those who prefer this format) - Last updated 11/13
Note that daily refers to flights but not necessarily airlines. List derived from Ben Gurion flight boards but is only from Ben Gurion. Still, flights usually run both ways (anyone want to write this in, fine, but I'm done). Feel free to correct or add to the list, especially when an airline starts flying - but change the date the list was updated. North America in bold.

Addis Ababa, Ethiopia (ADD) - Ethiopian (Daily)
Sochi, Russia (AER) - Red Wings, Azimuth (Daily)
Amsterdam (AMS) - El Al (Daily)
Athens (ATH) - Arkia, El Al, Blue Bird, Israir (Daily - as many as ten flights a day)
Abu Dhabi (AUH) - Etihad (Daily)
Barcelona (BCN) - El Al, Blue Bird (Daily except Saturday) (Israir?)
Belgrade, Serbia (BEG) - El Al (Sun D'Or) (Mon, Wed, Fri)
Berlin (BER) - Blue Bird, El Al, Israir (Daily except Saturday)
Bangkhok (BKK) - El Al (daily except Friday)
Boston (BOS) - El Al (Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday until March - from April: Sunday, Monday, Wednesday and Thursday)
Budapest (BUD) - El Al, Arkia, Blue Bird, Israir (Daily except Saturday)
Batumi, Georgia (BUS) - Arkia, Israir, El Al (Daily)
Paris (CDG, see below for ORY) - Arkia, El Al (Sun, Mon, Wed, Thurs)
Moscow (DME) - Red Wings, El Al (Most days)
Dubai (DXB) - Israir, Flydubai, Arkia, El Al (Daily, often more than 10x)
Newark (EWR) - El Al (Sun-Fri)
Rome (FCO) - El Al, Arkia, Israir (Sun-Fri)
Fort Lauderdale (FLL) - El Al (no November flights for sale, selling Mon and Fri in December)
Frankfurt (FRA) - El Al (Mostly sold out but you might get lucky)
Phuket, Thailand (HKT) - El Al (Mon, Tues, Thurs)
JFK - El Al (Sun-Fri)
Chisinau, Moldova (KIV/RMO) - HiSky, FLYONE, El Al (Sun D'Or) (Daily except Fri)
Krakow (KRK) - El Al, Israir (currently Mon, Wed, Fri)
Los Angeles (LAX) - El Al (Sun-Fri)
Lanarca, Cyprus (LCA) - Tus, Arkia, Cyprus, Israir, Blue Bird, El Al (Sun D'Or)
Liege, Belgium (LGG) - Shows on flight board as El Al (chartered) and Challenge, but I don't see any for sale on GF
London (LHR, see below for LTN) - El Al (Sun-Fri)
Lisbon (LIS) - El Al, limited dates
Ljubljana, Slovenia (LJU) - Shows on flight boars as Israir, but no flights for sale on GF
London (LTN, see above for LHR) - El Al, Israir (Daily)
Madrid (MAD) - El Al, limited dates (?)
Manchester (MAN) - Arkia (Monday, Thursday, at least for now)
Miami (MIA) - El Al (Sun, Tues, Wed, Thurs)
Munich (MUC) - El Al (limited flights)
Milan (MXP) - Arkia, El Al (Sun, Tues, Thurs)
Tokyo (NRT) - El Al (currently Motzei Shabbos, Monday and Wed - next month no Mon)
Paris (ORY) - Transavia (listed on flight boards, but for sale only in December)
Bucharest (OTP) - El Al, Israir, Tarom, Bees, HiSky (Most days)
Paphos (PFO) - El Al (Sun D'Or), Israir (Random days)
Prague (PRG) - Arkia, Smartwings, Blue Bird, El Al, Israir (Daily)
Suceava, Romania - Bees (Sporadic schedule)
Thessaloniki (SKG) - El Al (Sun D'Or) (Sun, Mon, Wed, Thurs)
Sofia, Bulgaria (SOF) - El Al, Arkia, Tus, Blue Bird, Israir (Many days)
Shenzen, China (SZX) - Hainan (sporadic)
Tashkent, Uzbekistan (TAS) - Uzbekistan (Mon-Thurs)
Tbilisi, Georgia (TBS) - Arkia, Israir, El Al (Sun D'Or), Georgian (Daily)
Podgorica, Montenegro (TGD) - El AL (Sun D'Or) (Thursday, Sunday)
Vienna (VIE) - Tus, Arkia, Blue Bird (currently Mon, Wed, Fri)
Warsaw (WAW) - El Al, Israir, Arkia (Sun-Fri)
Zhukovsky, Russia - Red Wings (Sun, Tues, Thurs)
Zhurich - El Al (Sporadic availability)

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1260 on: August 07, 2024, 02:35:10 PM »
Trying to get my sister back to Israel after DL cancelled her flight.
The DL agent is offering just AF through JFK-CDG-TLV, even though I'd prefer (for her sake) DL for JFK-CDG and LY CDG-TLV, and ExpertFlyer shows availability in Y.

Should I HUCA? Or just accept it?

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1261 on: August 07, 2024, 02:49:56 PM »
Trying to get my sister back to Israel after DL cancelled her flight.
The DL agent is offering just AF through JFK-CDG-TLV, even though I'd prefer (for her sake) DL for JFK-CDG and LY CDG-TLV, and ExpertFlyer shows availability in Y.

Should I HUCA? Or just accept it?

I just had similar, DL does not offer, even after many huca , LY availability I eventually booked through flying blue. It doesn't show on the app, and they can't see it.

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1262 on: August 07, 2024, 03:23:19 PM »
Trying to get my sister back to Israel after DL cancelled her flight.
The DL agent is offering just AF through JFK-CDG-TLV, even though I'd prefer (for her sake) DL for JFK-CDG and LY CDG-TLV, and ExpertFlyer shows availability in Y.

Should I HUCA? Or just accept it?
Delta can only rebook onto flights that they can see. Whatever shows on the site they can rebook to. As far as I can tell, that’s all US flights and LY 316 from London

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1263 on: August 07, 2024, 04:07:11 PM »
Delta can only rebook onto flights that they can see. Whatever shows on the site they can rebook to. As far as I can tell, that’s all US flights and LY 316 from London
I know someone who got rebooked from DL direct to LY323 TLV-CDG and DL245 CDG-JFK

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1264 on: August 07, 2024, 06:14:00 PM »
I have an economy comfort on delta NYC-TLV-NYC, will they give me any upgrades on elal, or they will give me a plain economy?

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1265 on: August 07, 2024, 06:17:42 PM »
I have an economy comfort on delta NYC-TLV-NYC, will they give me any upgrades on elal, or they will give me a plain economy?
medallion benefit or paid?
Medallions get preferred seating.

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1266 on: August 07, 2024, 06:24:38 PM »
medallion benefit or paid?
Medallions get preferred seating.
regular paid cash ticket

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1267 on: August 07, 2024, 11:50:08 PM »
Can someone guide me please I am not a frequent traveler:
We had reservations Economy (S) 3 family members JFK-TLV DL Nonstop Depart 8/18 and Return 8/25.
Flights are cancelled.
What are our options?
We can book on AF -TLV via CDG, but were hoping to get into the El-Al nonstops.
Alternately is there a way to get refunded instead of E-credits?

Any information or a link would be appreciated.

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1268 on: August 08, 2024, 02:55:49 PM »
Can someone guide me please I am not a frequent traveler:
We had reservations Economy (S) 3 family members JFK-TLV DL Nonstop Depart 8/18 and Return 8/25.
Flights are cancelled.
What are our options?
We can book on AF -TLV via CDG, but were hoping to get into the El-Al nonstops.
Alternately is there a way to get refunded instead of E-credits?

Any information or a link would be appreciated.
Yes, call Delta and they should be able to do any of the options that you mentioned (depending on how full the flights are).

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1269 on: August 08, 2024, 07:45:06 PM »
united just cancelled my sep 3 flight
no longer for sale on the website

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1270 on: August 08, 2024, 07:48:19 PM »
united just cancelled my sep 3 flight
no longer for sale on the website

seems like no flights are up for sale to tlv anymore...

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1272 on: August 08, 2024, 08:37:44 PM »
seems like no flights are up for sale to tlv anymore...
If it’s true that UA is taking a significant break from TLV, is now LYs chance to jump back into ORD and SFO?

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1273 on: August 08, 2024, 08:57:50 PM »
If it’s true that UA is taking a significant break from TLV, is now LYs chance to jump back into ORD and SFO?
Or add more capacity to NYC (probably easier than starting a new route, getting slots, etc)

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1274 on: August 08, 2024, 09:16:57 PM »
Or add more capacity to NYC (probably easier than starting a new route, getting slots, etc)
The opposite is likely true
JFK is slot controlled and EWR is slot limited
ORD and SFO are not

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1275 on: August 08, 2024, 09:27:19 PM »
The opposite is likely true
JFK is slot controlled and EWR is slot limited
ORD and SFO are not

 What about PHL to compete for NJ travelers? They can also go after the DC area.

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1276 on: August 08, 2024, 10:31:15 PM »
What about PHL to compete for NJ travelers? They can also go after the DC area.
Unlikely
Us-air used to offer pre merger and was never full

Would be nice if they got BWI
Many Baltimorians have claimed it is almost easier to drive to EWR then go to IAD

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1278 on: August 08, 2024, 10:54:09 PM »
Expanded waiver:
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/airlines/united/united-thinking-suspending-israel-service-july-2025/
Good way to use 27k flights for Europe but that's no consolation for Iran being able to shut down Israel's connection to the world at a whim with no consequences.

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1279 on: August 09, 2024, 06:56:11 AM »
Air India is suspending service through mid Oct.

There goes my Thailand summer plans  :(