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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #880 on: February 20, 2024, 10:35:09 AM »
It depends on distance and hence ability to turn around and return with the same crew.

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #881 on: February 20, 2024, 10:51:04 AM »
It depends on distance and hence ability to turn around and return with the same crew.
CDG-TLV is nearly identical to AMS-TLV.
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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #882 on: February 20, 2024, 10:53:22 AM »
CDG-TLV is nearly identical to AMS-TLV.
Right.
In the past AF did that LCA stop as crew didn't want to step foot in Israel. I receive nice compensation per EU law  :)

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #883 on: February 20, 2024, 11:24:16 AM »
CDG-TLV is nearly identical to AMS-TLV.
You are right. I didn't realize that. With a flight time over 4 hours it is probably a matter of willingness to risk crew timing out on a delay in TLV.

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #884 on: February 20, 2024, 04:00:54 PM »
Has United paid Aviation Services compensation for flights canceled within 14 days?
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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #885 on: February 20, 2024, 04:09:22 PM »
Has United paid Aviation Services compensation for flights canceled within 14 days?

They can easily claim force majeure, they do that without a war.

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #886 on: February 20, 2024, 04:10:30 PM »
Does LO rebook on *A EX-TLV for to schedule change?
Would like the following itinerary:
A3 TLV-ATH
UA ATH-EWR

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #889 on: February 20, 2024, 06:48:14 PM »
Iím seeing delta direct flights for May from JFK. If they do end up cancelling last min, will they rebook me, or am I up the creek and need to rebook myself via LY?

Any recent data points on this?

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #890 on: February 20, 2024, 06:51:53 PM »
Iím seeing delta direct flights for May from JFK. If they do end up cancelling last min, will they rebook me, or am I up the creek and need to rebook myself via LY?

Any recent data points on this?
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=134544.msg2796528#msg279652
Just had another KLM-changed flight, this time booked directly with DL. DL text rep rebooked on LY instantly.
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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #892 on: February 21, 2024, 03:02:42 AM »
They can easily claim force majeure, they do that without a war.
Not true. United pays out nicely. (Just try dealing with LH for eu compensation....)

I don't have any DP now with the way, but in general.

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #893 on: February 21, 2024, 04:48:09 AM »
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=134544.msg2796528#msg279652
Just had another KLM-changed flight, this time booked directly with DL. DL text rep rebooked on LY instantly.
cash or points?

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #894 on: February 21, 2024, 06:38:42 AM »
https://passportnews.co.il/article/188853
I think say this point no one believes these reports. Let's see an official statement from United.

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #895 on: February 21, 2024, 07:57:42 AM »
https://passportnews.co.il/article/188853
I wonder if its true this time
ďUnited Airlines informed the Israel Airports Authority (IAA) on Wednesday of its intention to return to Israel in less than two weeks.
United Airlines is expected to take off from New York to Tel Aviv on March 2nd, with the first flight from Tel Aviv to New York scheduled for March 3rdĒ

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #896 on: February 21, 2024, 08:30:14 AM »
Not true. United pays out nicely. (Just try dealing with LH for eu compensation....)

I don't have any DP now with the way, but in general.

Good to know, just commented from my experience.

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #898 on: February 21, 2024, 10:00:15 AM »
With a technical stop in LCA on the way to TLV.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjmhq6Q1ryEAxW2hIkEHaVxBz4QxfQBKAB6BAgHEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ynetnews.com%2Ftravel%2Farticle%2Fr1dmgpqnt&usg=AOvVaw33i652R4uuafI5jFP0Wmx8&opi=89978449
"In addition, Dutch airline KLM plans to resume its flights between Amsterdam and Tel Aviv starting from April 1 until May 19, 2024, with a daily flight using a Boeing 737-900 aircraft. The flights to Israel will include a layover in Larnaca, where crew members who are unwilling to travel to Israel will be replaced."
 >:( I can't say I would feel safe with someone anti-Israel enough that they need to make a stop for them to get off.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #899 on: February 21, 2024, 10:36:18 AM »
CDG-TLV is nearly identical to AMS-TLV.
Widebody range vs narrowbody range