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Here is a site with updated list of airlines flying or not flying:
https://www.passportcard.co.il/article/airlines-at-war/
in Hebrew

If it says, for example:
לא (כל הטיסות מבוטלות עד ל05.09)

It means as of now they are not flying until Dec. 5, not including, meaning they are set to restart on Dec 5.

Many airlines keep on pushing off the restart date.

Airlines flying and cities currently served to TLV - as of 11/11/24 (from the passportcard site, ones verified by the DDMS are in Blue)

ELAL - Network includes (not checked for active service): Europe: Vienna Brussels Sofia Zagreb Larnaca Paphos Prague Lyon Marseille Nice Paris Batumi Tbilisi Berlin Frankfurt Munich Athens Kefalonia Patras-Peloponnese Rhodes Santorini Sitia (Crete) Thessaloniki Budapest Dublin Milan Naples Rome Venice Chisinau Podgorica Tivat Amsterdam Krakow Warsaw Lisbon Porto Bucharest Moscow Belgrade Ljubljana Barcelona Madrid Geneva Zurich London
NA:  Toronto Boston Fort Lauderdale, Miami Area Los Angeles Miami New York
Arkia
IsraAir - Network includes (not checked for active service): Tel Aviv Athens Barcelona Batumi Berlin Bucharest Budapest Chisinau Dubai Larnaca Lisbon London Paphos Prague Rome Rovaniemi Sofia Tbilisi Tivat Varna Verona Warsaw Zanzibar (havent checked what is current)
Air Haifa
- Larnaca

Air Seychelles
Azimuth Airlines
Blue Bird Airways - Athens, Barcelona, Berlin, Budapest, Larnaka, Prague, Sofia, Vienna
Cyprus Airways - Larnaka
Ethiopian Airlines - Adis Ababa   
Etihad Airways - Abu Dahbi
FlyDubai - Dubai

Georgian Airways - Tibilisi
Hainan Airlines   - Shenzhen
HiSKy - Bucharest, Chisinau

Red Wings - Sochi, Zhukovskiy, Moskow
Smartwings -Prague
Tarom - Bucharest
Tus Airways -  Larnaka, Barcelona , Sofia, Vienna
   
Uzbekistan Airways

List sorted by destination airport code (for those who prefer this format) - Last updated 11/13
Note that daily refers to flights but not necessarily airlines. List derived from Ben Gurion flight boards but is only from Ben Gurion. Still, flights usually run both ways (anyone want to write this in, fine, but I'm done). Feel free to correct or add to the list, especially when an airline starts flying - but change the date the list was updated. North America in bold.

Addis Ababa, Ethiopia (ADD) - Ethiopian (Daily)
Sochi, Russia (AER) - Red Wings, Azimuth (Daily)
Amsterdam (AMS) - El Al (Daily)
Athens (ATH) - Arkia, El Al, Blue Bird, Israir (Daily - as many as ten flights a day)
Abu Dhabi (AUH) - Etihad (Daily)
Barcelona (BCN) - El Al, Blue Bird (Daily except Saturday) (Israir?)
Belgrade, Serbia (BEG) - El Al (Sun D'Or) (Mon, Wed, Fri)
Berlin (BER) - Blue Bird, El Al, Israir (Daily except Saturday)
Bangkhok (BKK) - El Al (daily except Friday)
Boston (BOS) - El Al (Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday until March - from April: Sunday, Monday, Wednesday and Thursday)
Budapest (BUD) - El Al, Arkia, Blue Bird, Israir (Daily except Saturday)
Batumi, Georgia (BUS) - Arkia, Israir, El Al (Daily)
Paris (CDG, see below for ORY) - Arkia, El Al (Sun, Mon, Wed, Thurs)
Moscow (DME) - Red Wings, El Al (Most days)
Dubai (DXB) - Israir, Flydubai, Arkia, El Al (Daily, often more than 10x)
Newark (EWR) - El Al (Sun-Fri)
Rome (FCO) - El Al, Arkia, Israir (Sun-Fri)
Fort Lauderdale (FLL) - El Al (no November flights for sale, selling Mon and Fri in December)
Frankfurt (FRA) - El Al (Mostly sold out but you might get lucky)
Phuket, Thailand (HKT) - El Al (Mon, Tues, Thurs)
JFK - El Al (Sun-Fri)
Chisinau, Moldova (KIV/RMO) - HiSky, FLYONE, El Al (Sun D'Or) (Daily except Fri)
Krakow (KRK) - El Al, Israir (currently Mon, Wed, Fri)
Los Angeles (LAX) - El Al (Sun-Fri)
Lanarca, Cyprus (LCA) - Tus, Arkia, Cyprus, Israir, Blue Bird, El Al (Sun D'Or)
Liege, Belgium (LGG) - Shows on flight board as El Al (chartered) and Challenge, but I don't see any for sale on GF
London (LHR, see below for LTN) - El Al (Sun-Fri)
Lisbon (LIS) - El Al, limited dates
Ljubljana, Slovenia (LJU) - Shows on flight boars as Israir, but no flights for sale on GF
London (LTN, see above for LHR) - El Al, Israir (Daily)
Madrid (MAD) - El Al, limited dates (?)
Manchester (MAN) - Arkia (Monday, Thursday, at least for now)
Miami (MIA) - El Al (Sun, Tues, Wed, Thurs)
Munich (MUC) - El Al (limited flights)
Milan (MXP) - Arkia, El Al (Sun, Tues, Thurs)
Tokyo (NRT) - El Al (currently Motzei Shabbos, Monday and Wed - next month no Mon)
Paris (ORY) - Transavia (listed on flight boards, but for sale only in December)
Bucharest (OTP) - El Al, Israir, Tarom, Bees, HiSky (Most days)
Paphos (PFO) - El Al (Sun D'Or), Israir (Random days)
Prague (PRG) - Arkia, Smartwings, Blue Bird, El Al, Israir (Daily)
Suceava, Romania - Bees (Sporadic schedule)
Thessaloniki (SKG) - El Al (Sun D'Or) (Sun, Mon, Wed, Thurs)
Sofia, Bulgaria (SOF) - El Al, Arkia, Tus, Blue Bird, Israir (Many days)
Shenzen, China (SZX) - Hainan (sporadic)
Tashkent, Uzbekistan (TAS) - Uzbekistan (Mon-Thurs)
Tbilisi, Georgia (TBS) - Arkia, Israir, El Al (Sun D'Or), Georgian (Daily)
Podgorica, Montenegro (TGD) - El AL (Sun D'Or) (Thursday, Sunday)
Vienna (VIE) - Tus, Arkia, Blue Bird (currently Mon, Wed, Fri)
Warsaw (WAW) - El Al, Israir, Arkia (Sun-Fri)
Zhukovsky, Russia - Red Wings (Sun, Tues, Thurs)
Zhurich - El Al (Sporadic availability)

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1881 on: October 08, 2024, 09:27:25 PM »
I just had a rather strange conversation with a representative from Virgin Atlantic. At the outset, he firmly stated that Virgin Atlantic is only willing to substitute the flight segment from Tel Aviv to London with El Al flights. They are absolutely unwilling to replace this segment with a flight from Tel Aviv to JFK without layovers, even if there is no availability on El Al for the desired dates. He explained that if any representative made such a booking by mistake, it would be canceled, as these are the clear policies of the company that he has heard reiterated numerous times by his superiors at Virgin Atlantic.

He also mentioned that the company discovered that many passengers were intentionally booking with Virgin Atlantic at lower fares, under the assumption that Virgin would transfer them to El Al flights. They are not going to allow that to happen. Furthermore, he claimed that the reason the route to Tel Aviv has not been canceled yet, despite multiple requests from sales representatives to halt ticket sales, is because the CEO of Virgin Atlantic, Shai Weiss, is an Israeli from Tel Aviv. According to him, this has resulted in billion-dollar losses for the company due to this poor decision.

This encapsulates the essence of the bizarre conversation. What are your thoughts? What would you advise me to do?
I actually had virgin flights booked thru delta for January, first rep told me they can only rebook on DL metal (delta didn't cancel Jan yet), after 2 HUCA's they got me on the DL codeshare with ELAL direct

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1882 on: October 08, 2024, 11:32:46 PM »
Interesting, people didn't book because they knew virgin would cancel and they can get an elal flight. instead people didn't have an issue booking virgin even if they might cancel because they offer protection on elal, unlike LH group, united etc. who'll leave you stranded without alternative options.

From their official rebooking policy: (can be found here: https://flywith.virginatlantic.com/us/en/partner-hub/vsbulletins.html)
I personally know people that booked on DL and VS because they knew they would cancel and will be protected on LY....

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1883 on: October 09, 2024, 12:01:26 AM »
If tickets are booked on chase points on delta flights who rebooks you?
Do you get a refund to miles?

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1884 on: October 09, 2024, 04:21:25 AM »
If tickets are booked on chase points on delta flights who rebooks you?
Do you get a refund to miles?
If you're referring to booking with the chase travel portal. chase would rebook you according to delta's policies like any other travel agent.
If you paid with points you'll get your points refunded.

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1885 on: October 09, 2024, 04:24:18 AM »
Any travel agent here willing to do me a favor? I want to waitlist a elal flight, so when it clears I can cancel it, and VS will rebook my original reservation.
Help would be gladly appreciated.
Please pm me

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1886 on: October 09, 2024, 06:14:14 AM »
Any travel agent here willing to do me a favor? I want to waitlist a elal flight, so when it clears I can cancel it, and VS will rebook my original reservation.
Help would be gladly appreciated.
Please pm me
Not going to work
Tried if for a client and originally it did confirm when they wtried to ticket it they said elal pulled it back saying that virgin should not have been able to access that

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1887 on: October 09, 2024, 06:56:07 AM »
Not going to work
Tried if for a client and originally it did confirm when they wtried to ticket it they said elal pulled it back saying that virgin should not have been able to access that
Seems that ISSTA is marketing some flights on same plane as Lalechet

https://www.ynet.co.il/vacation/flights/article/by5pppmj1x

(sorry, can only see in Hebrew).
Not cheap - from USD 3100 per article

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1888 on: October 09, 2024, 07:41:11 AM »
Seems that ISSTA is marketing some flights on same plane as Lalechet

https://www.ynet.co.il/vacation/flights/article/by5pppmj1x

(sorry, can only see in Hebrew).
Not cheap - from USD 3100 per article
Lalechet also advertised in the Hebrew Yated

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1889 on: October 09, 2024, 08:00:17 AM »

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1890 on: October 09, 2024, 08:05:09 AM »
Seems that ISSTA is marketing some flights on same plane as Lalechet

https://www.ynet.co.il/vacation/flights/article/by5pppmj1x

(sorry, can only see in Hebrew).
Not cheap - from USD 3100 per article
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« Reply #1891 on: October 09, 2024, 08:18:52 AM »
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הכי קרוב לטיסה ישירה לניו יורק – השחקנית החדשה בשוק הטיסות לארה"ב
בזמן שבאל על כל המטוסים לניו יורק מלאים החודש, והיעדרות מרבית החברות הזרות הפכה גם את הקונקשן לארה"ב לעניין מסובך, הודיעה איסתא כי תשווק טיסות לתפוח הגדול, באמצעות חברת איסטרן איירליינס האמריקנית, עם עצירת תדלוק של 50 דקות באירלנד. כמה זה עולה? כל הפרטים 


הטיסות, שיבוצעו על ידי חברת איסטרן איירליינס האמריקנית, יופעלו על רקע ביקוש גבוה במיוחד בקווים לארה"ב שנוצר בעקבות הפסקת הטיסות של החברות האמריקניות בקווים לישראל והעבודה כי אין כרטיסים פנויים בטיסות אל על.

המחיר אינו זול, אבל עדיף על האפשרויות האחרות - טיסות עם קונקשן באתונה או טיסה ללרנקה ומשם לאחד היעדים באירופה, ומשם טיסת המשך לניו יורק - סיפור שעולה לפחות 3,100 דולר לנוסע לשני הכיוונים. במילים אחרות, מדובר בפתרון למי שתקוע בניו יורק ורוצה להגיע הביתה, או למי שתכנן לצאת לחופשה שהזמין מראש לפני החגים באחת מהחברות הזרות שביטלה את טיסותיה לישראל.
בשלב הזה ניתן לרכוש כרטיסים לטיסות מתל אביב לניו יורק שיוצאות ב-10, 15 ו-28 באוקטובר. הטיסות מניו יורק לנתב"ג ממריאות ב-8, 13 ו-22 באוקטובר. משך הטיסה – כ-13 שעות. במהלך הימים הקרובים ייפתחו טיסות נוספות. ניתן לרכוש את הכרטיסים באתר איסתא ובמוקד הטלפוני של החברה 03-7777777.

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1892 on: October 09, 2024, 09:09:41 AM »
הכי קרוב לטיסה ישירה לניו יורק – השחקנית החדשה בשוק הטיסות לארה"ב
בזמן שבאל על כל המטוסים לניו יורק מלאים החודש, והיעדרות מרבית החברות הזרות הפכה גם את הקונקשן לארה"ב לעניין מסובך, הודיעה איסתא כי תשווק טיסות לתפוח הגדול, באמצעות חברת איסטרן איירליינס האמריקנית, עם עצירת תדלוק של 50 דקות באירלנד. כמה זה עולה? כל הפרטים 


הטיסות, שיבוצעו על ידי חברת איסטרן איירליינס האמריקנית, יופעלו על רקע ביקוש גבוה במיוחד בקווים לארה"ב שנוצר בעקבות הפסקת הטיסות של החברות האמריקניות בקווים לישראל והעבודה כי אין כרטיסים פנויים בטיסות אל על.

המחיר אינו זול, אבל עדיף על האפשרויות האחרות - טיסות עם קונקשן באתונה או טיסה ללרנקה ומשם לאחד היעדים באירופה, ומשם טיסת המשך לניו יורק - סיפור שעולה לפחות 3,100 דולר לנוסע לשני הכיוונים. במילים אחרות, מדובר בפתרון למי שתקוע בניו יורק ורוצה להגיע הביתה, או למי שתכנן לצאת לחופשה שהזמין מראש לפני החגים באחת מהחברות הזרות שביטלה את טיסותיה לישראל.
בשלב הזה ניתן לרכוש כרטיסים לטיסות מתל אביב לניו יורק שיוצאות ב-10, 15 ו-28 באוקטובר. הטיסות מניו יורק לנתב"ג ממריאות ב-8, 13 ו-22 באוקטובר. משך הטיסה – כ-13 שעות. במהלך הימים הקרובים ייפתחו טיסות נוספות. ניתן לרכוש את הכרטיסים באתר איסתא ובמוקד הטלפוני של החברה 03-7777777.
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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1895 on: October 09, 2024, 11:18:23 AM »
Anyone know the EK rebooting policy for cancelled FlyDubai flights?

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1896 on: October 09, 2024, 11:38:48 AM »
Seems that ISSTA is marketing some flights on same plane as Lalechet

https://www.ynet.co.il/vacation/flights/article/by5pppmj1x

(sorry, can only see in Hebrew).
Not cheap - from USD 3100 per article

The article says 1115 each way
It was quoting the cost of connecting via Europe at 3100

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1897 on: October 09, 2024, 01:15:57 PM »
Europe rules revised, allowing return of European airlines
https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/domains/air-operations/czibs/2024-02-r1

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1898 on: October 09, 2024, 01:36:34 PM »
The article says 1115 each way
It was quoting the cost of connecting via Europe at 3100
Yes, they updated the article. See my copy and paste!

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Re: Simchas Torah War - Flights Discussion Thread
« Reply #1899 on: October 09, 2024, 01:45:22 PM »
Code dead?
I’m trying to book 5 tickets for tomorrow’s flight from TLV.
Anyone here can help?
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