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Why doesn't the younger generation support Israel?
« on: October 15, 2023, 10:09:30 AM »
This isn't just about this war but about the whole Israel/Palestine issue.

I have seen poll after poll the younger you are the more likely you will side with Palestine.

Thoughts?
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Re: Why doesn't the younger generation not support Israel?
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2023, 10:13:23 AM »
Possibly younger kids are more easily brainwashed and fall prey to the social Justice and other affiliate movements.

I’d like to see studies if they those a little older who show more support include many who supported the Palestinian cause in the past.

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Re: Why doesn't the younger generation support Israel?
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2023, 10:20:19 AM »
This isn't just about this war but about the whole Israel/Palestine issue.

I have seen poll after poll the younger you are the more likely you will side with Palestine.

Thoughts?
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Re: Why doesn't the younger generation not support Israel?
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2023, 10:21:02 AM »
I’d like to see studies if they those a little older who show more support include many who supported the Palestinian cause in the past.
I am guessing they are forming their opinion for the first time. My bet is they look at the Palestinian people as the oppressed and not at the whole situation.

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Re: Why doesn't the younger generation support Israel?
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2023, 10:28:19 AM »
Social media.
I am sure that is a big part of it but why is social media against Israel. I don't think kids are following 80-year-olds on social media.
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Re: Why doesn't the younger generation support Israel?
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2023, 10:44:39 AM »
I am guessing they are forming their opinion for the first time. My bet is they look at the Palestinian people as the oppressed and not at the whole situation.



At a short teenage attention span glance that is how it looks. It is only once someone maturely views the bigger picture that they see what is really going on.
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Re: Why doesn't the younger generation support Israel?
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2023, 10:47:03 AM »
Possibly younger kids are more easily brainwashed and fall prey to the social Justice and other affiliate movements.

I’d like to see studies if they those a little older who show more support include many who supported the Palestinian cause in the past.

Just take a look at the reports we've seen from the colleges in recent days.
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Re: Why doesn't the younger generation support Israel?
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2023, 10:51:12 AM »
At a short teenage attention span glance that is how it looks. It is only once someone maturely views the bigger picture that they see what is really going on.
I hope you are right, but I don't think it is the case. This war will only reinforce their distorted views.

It would be interesting to see how many say 60-year-olds supported Israel 10 years ago and then again right before this war.
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Re: Why doesn't the younger generation support Israel?
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2023, 10:53:33 AM »
I hope you are right, but I don't think it is the case. This war will only reinforce their distorted views.

It would be interesting to see how many say 60-year-olds supported Israel 10 years ago and then again right before this war.

The question is what happens when they already have an opinion they feel strongly about before they reach that point. Then it becomes "feelings don't care about your facts"
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Re: Why doesn't the younger generation support Israel?
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2023, 10:55:10 AM »
Also further removed from the Holocaust

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Re: Why doesn't the younger generation support Israel?
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2023, 10:57:07 AM »
Also further removed from the Holocaust
...and history in general.
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Re: Why doesn't the younger generation support Israel?
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2023, 11:01:16 AM »
Very simple, excluding the brainwashing from the universities, Just take a look at how the New York times reported on suicide bombings 20 years ago, how they report in the last few years.

The amount of overt bias, coached words, outright lies, distortions, and selective excludment...

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Re: Why doesn't the younger generation support Israel?
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2023, 11:09:29 AM »
We’ve allowed our universities to become a hotbed of anti-American pro-terror indoctrination centers.

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Re: Why doesn't the younger generation support Israel?
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2023, 11:10:24 AM »
Just take a look at how the New York times reported on suicide bombings 20 years ago, how they report in the last few years.
This is where I think the disconnect comes in. Most here look at these things as the Palestinian people and the younger generation looks at is the terrorist and not the Palestinian people.
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Re: Why doesn't the younger generation support Israel?
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2023, 11:16:43 AM »
Also further removed from the Holocaust
Came here to say this (Not that Israel is the solution)
Jews ≠ Zionists
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Re: Why doesn't the younger generation support Israel?
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2023, 11:49:15 AM »
I am sure that is a big part of it but why is social media against Israel. I don't think kids are following 80-year-olds on social media.
For one, 24% of the world follows Islam and that is a big influence on social media. The PR for Palestine is extremely vocal and strong on social media.

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Re: Why doesn't the younger generation support Israel?
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2023, 11:51:46 AM »
Even amongst our circles, I'm surprised by the lack of knowledge my younger sisters have. I feel it's the current teachers lack knowledge of teaching history properly.
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Re: Why doesn't the younger generation support Israel?
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2023, 11:55:10 AM »
This isn't just about this war but about the whole Israel/Palestine issue.

I have seen poll after poll the younger you are the more likely you will side with Palestine.

Thoughts?
For our younger Jewish generation: Little or (sadly) NO JEWISH EDUCATION. Many have only a secular education and have little appreciation of the importance of State of Israel to the Jewish people. Ignorance coupled with a biased news/social media world.

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Re: Why doesn't the younger generation support Israel?
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2023, 12:15:20 PM »
This is where I think the disconnect comes in. Most here look at these things as the Palestinian people and the younger generation looks at is the terrorist and not the Palestinian people.

I don't think this is true for either part. The separation between the people and the terrorists is tempered by both their support of the terrorists and how most of what happens to them is the fault of the terrorists.
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Re: Why doesn't the younger generation support Israel?
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2023, 12:16:28 PM »
At a short teenage attention span glance that is how it looks. It is only once someone maturely views the bigger picture that they see what is really going on.
Me and the word teenager don't get along very well.
Teenagers are perfectly capable of understanding issues.
Even amongst our circles, I'm surprised by the lack of knowledge my younger sisters have. I feel it's the current teachers lack knowledge of teaching history properly.
I don't either know history. Learnt a bit of Jewish history in yeshiva but not recent history. More like times of rishonim and earlier as far as I remember.