Windows 10 VS windows 11

[Jojo202]

I personally have just upgraded. from Windows 10 to Windows 11, and I am thrilled. I waited in the beginning until they polished up Windows 11 and fixed up some of the bugs. To me, it feels more fluid and coherent. Granted, a lot of the things I may mention you may not bother you at all, but this is just my experience. I love the new file manager and the clarity and especially the tabs. The start menu search finally functions decent enough for daily use. The context menus are cleaned up and finally don't look like they were pulled from 17 different operating systems. (just 3 or 4). The Windows dictation (Win+H) works much more fluidly for me, which is a big help. I love tabs in notepad, auto saving notepad, Text OCR in snipping tools, Screen recorder built into snipping tool. I would love the Android integration if it wasn't blocked by my filter . (If anyone knows a filter out there, that can support it please let me know- I want to use Verizon Message+ on my computer which has since turned into an Android only app). Also just love the design. Yeah, I know, I can't either believe I just said that about Microsoft Windows.

For the haters of the start menu redesign, there is a 5.99 Fixed from Stardock called Start 11, That can fix some of the things that bother people, and then some....

Also, I'll mention that upgrading was really easy. Downloaded in the background, maybe 10-15 minutes to complete the process. And I was done. I am impressed.

[Alexsei]

I personally have just upgraded. from Windows 10 to Windows 11, and I am thrilled. I waited in the beginning until they polished up Windows 11 and fixed up some of the bugs. To me, it feels more fluid and coherent. Granted, a lot of the things I may mention you may not bother you at all, but this is just my experience. I love the new file manager and the clarity and especially the tabs. The start menu search finally functions decent enough for daily use. The context menus are cleaned up and finally don't look like they were pulled from 17 different operating systems. (just 3 or 4). The Windows dictation (Win+H) works much more fluidly for me, which is a big help. I love tabs in notepad, auto saving notepad, Text OCR in snipping tools, Screen recorder built into snipping tool. I would love the Android integration if it wasn't blocked by my filter . (If anyone knows a filter out there, that can support it please let me know- I want to use Verizon Message+ on my computer which has since turned into an Android only app). Also just love the design. Yeah, I know, I can't either believe I just said that about Microsoft Windows.

For the haters of the start menu redesign, there is a 5.99 Fixed from Stardock called Start 11, That can fix some of the things that bother people, and then some....

Also, I'll mention that upgrading was really easy. Downloaded in the background, maybe 10-15 minutes to complete the process. And I was done. I am impressed.

I'm on 11 for a long time already, love it. But I also change my mindset, back in the day I used classic shell after going from 7/10, this time I decided i'm not going to fight, I will just get used to it. and I did

[lcm]

  (If anyone knows a filter out there, that can support it please let me know- I want to use Verizon Message+ on my computer which has since turned into an Android only app).

You can install apps on Windows 11 using subsystem for Android

[Alexsei]

You can install apps on Windows 11 using subsystem for Android

None of the popular filters allow (or can filter) WSA (or WSL) for the time being

[DaasTora]

Being that Windows 11 isn’t compatible with i5’s older than 8th gen, and Windows 10 is losing support in the last quarter of ‘25, I’d believe people should think twice before buying any processor older than that. @mevinyavin ?

[Yo ssi]

https://www.techradar.com/how-to/how-to-upgrade-to-windows-11-without-tpm-20-and-why-you-shouldnt

[DaasTora]

https://www.techradar.com/how-to/how-to-upgrade-to-windows-11-without-tpm-20-and-why-you-shouldnt

Riskier than the extra 100 bucks (or less) for a later gen processor.

[mevinyavin]

Being that Windows 11 isn’t compatible with i5’s older than 8th gen, and Windows 10 is losing support in the last quarter of ‘25, I’d believe people should think twice before buying any processor older than that. @mevinyavin ?

First find me a processor that old worth its asking price, and then we'll talk.

[DaasTora]

First find me a processor that old worth its asking price, and then we'll talk.

Refurbished from a reliable seller with a warranty?
Like this https://www.ebay.com/itm/296094171597?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=TSLqSDYzS7u&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=wu2buewytam&var=594218362029&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Regardless, am I right with the premise?

[mevinyavin]

Refurbished from a reliable seller with a warranty?
Like this https://www.ebay.com/itm/296094171597?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=TSLqSDYzS7u&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=wu2buewytam&var=594218362029&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Regardless, am I right with the premise?

That's too much money.
The premise would depend on usage, of course, but for an internet machine you are lechora correct.

[Moshe Green]

Being that Windows 11 isn’t compatible with i5’s older than 8th gen, and Windows 10 is losing support in the last quarter of ‘25, I’d believe people should think twice before buying any processor older than that. @mevinyavin ?

Depends what you are using the computer for.
For heavy office work, of course.
For kids homework, at a good price, why not?

[DaasTora]

That's too much money.

Why do you think so?

[mevinyavin]

Why do you think so?

I wouldn't spend that much on a refurb that old with such a low level of performance.

[Moshe Green]

I wouldn't spend that much on a refurb that old with such a low level of performance.

$100 is alot? For an i5 with 32 gb ram for homework?
What would you consider a good deal, $5?

[mevinyavin]

$100 is alot? For an i5 with 32 gb ram for homework?
What would you consider a good deal, $5?

1) Slow refurbs. These are around $100 each. Computers are five or more years old; if manufactured well (the only ones you should consider), they are about halfway through their average lifespan. They will also be forced to run an obsolete OS - if you plan on using them over the internet, I cannot recommend them at all. In addition, their performance is about equal to budget computers today albeit at higher wattages (=electricity cost, though the new ones have other issues and don't make this list), and there is no guarantee that they will perform fast in the future, if they aren't slow already.
Such a computer would be like the one immediately upthread with the 6500T (though at $100, it usually has less RAM).
Another mention here: https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=134667.msg2854185#msg2854185
If it wasn't obvious, I wouldn't do this, but I understand if this is all your budget stretches to. Just keep them off the internet - maybe get one computer that is newer for internet use.

[ExGingi]

IINM one of the benefits visible to end users on Windows 11 is the ability to mirror phones (or something to that effect).

[Yo ssi]

IINM one of the benefits visible to end users on Windows 11 is the ability to mirror phones (or something to that effect).

?

[Moshe Green]

What I understand from your assessment is that this computer is great for someone who wants to use it for basic home use. Can we get you to say that  ?

[mevinyavin]

What I understand from your assessment is that this computer is great for someone who wants to use it for basic home use. Can we get you to say that  ?

This computer will function fine, probably, for someone who will use it offline for basic home use, but nevertheless costs too much money for what you are getting because of how long it will (won't) last, possibly. The control-freak in me will not let me recommend it.

And that is my final answer.

[ExGingi]

?

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2023/04/26/phone-link-for-ios-is-now-rolling-out-to-all-windows-11-customers/