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I don't know. What I do know is if it is ignorance then there is a good chance they can be shown the light.
Ignorant mobs have always been the ones to rampage and massacre Jews, even as higher ups in the government and the Church discouraged the attacks. We have been through this many times before. Ignorance does not make them benign, in fact it makes them very dangerous.

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https://twitter.com/MichaelaLehr/status/1717744985456492840

“From the River to the sea” is not ignorance

“Get rid of all of them” is not ignorance

“We need hitler to finish the job” is not ignorance

“Hamas is justified in slaughtering, raping children, & burning babies because it’s resistance” is not ignorance

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Ignorant mobs have always been the ones to rampage and massacre Jews, even as higher ups in the government and the Church discouraged the attacks. We have been through this many times before. Ignorance does not make them benign, in fact it makes them very dangerous.
You are conflating issues.
You really think any of the US college kids want to massacre Jews?
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You are conflating issues.
You really think any of the US college kids want to massacre Jews?
Want, maybe not. Can they? Absolutely. Mobs of people do things that as individuals they would not. I hope and pray to G-d that it does not come to that.

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You are conflating issues.
You really think any of the US college kids want to massacre Jews?

Definitely doesn’t start like that, but who knows where it can end.
Not saying today or tomorrow, but society is definitely heading the wrong way

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What are all the nazi & hitler symbols at these protests meant to imply ?

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Definitely doesn’t start like that, but who knows where it can end.
Not saying today or tomorrow, but society is definitely heading the wrong way
Everyone says things are worse now just like the economy, racism and many other things.
Ask those who went through the great depression, civil rights protests or the "H" if that is true. 
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You really think any of the US college kids want “to” massacre Jews?
A very important word you threw in there.

Do they actually want to do the massacring themselves ? No

Do they want Jews massacred ? Unfortunately many do. Can be hitler, hamas, or anyone else.

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What are all the nazi & hitler symbols at these protests meant to imply ?
Is that what you are seeing at these campus protests or is like this?
https://twitter.com/RitchieTorres/status/1717525605850235138
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Is that what you are seeing at these campus protests
Yes. People stating we need to get rid of Jews, hitler references, nazi symbols.
You haven’t seen it ?

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Yes. People stating we need to get rid of Jews, hitler references, nazi symbols.
You haven’t seen it ?
I have seen some of it but not the Nazi symbols at campus protests evolving non-Palestinian students.
There are a lot of words that have different meanings, or the meanings are not known. I just learned about "flood" today.
Intifada has many meanings as does the chant river,sea,free. 
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I have seen some of it but not the Nazi symbols at campus protests evolving non-Palestinian students.
Then you still have a whole lot more of getting out to do. 
It’s a slow process but you’ll get there eventually. :)

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Intifada has many meanings as does the chant river,sea,free.
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Doesn’t have a different meaning,
some people could just be clueless about what it means
Very different

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Doesn’t have a different meaning,
some people could just be clueless about what it means
Very different
Would you ALM has different meanings?
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Everyone says things are worse now just like the economy, racism and many other things.
Ask those who went through the great depression, civil rights protests or the "H" if that is true. 

There is no question that during the H was MUCH worse. How about a few years before?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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there are a few issues at hand:
the fine line between freedom of speech /hate/threats

while free speech is a right indoctrination of our youth is not, the fact that these campuses are incubators show that the one in the drivers seat is sleeping on the wheel. otherwise they would call it out and  discourage them.

and adversary states using freedom of speech to educate our students, I have no proof of this but I highly believe its taking place
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while free speech is a right indoctrination of our youth is not,

Source?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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There is no question that during the H was MUCH worse. How about a few years before?
We can always pick places in time to support anything.
The point is everyone likes to say it has never been this bad and 99% of the time they are wrong.
I just had this argument (fact check) with someone about murders in the US. The fake news is that under Biden it is the worst. The fact is one year under the last admin it was the worst in 30 years. Even as bad as it is now it is not as bad as it was in the late 70's early 80's.
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