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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #380 on: June 10, 2024, 05:07:48 PM »
Where was the memo posted? Does he expect his vote to count 3 months from now?

Wasn't posted publicly. His votes and opinions count more after a prolonged pause.

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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #382 on: June 16, 2024, 04:39:25 PM »
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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #387 on: July 31, 2024, 11:13:05 PM »
Today's Daf. That's the answer (Rashbam, Yishmaelim Ganuvim). ;)

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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #388 on: August 06, 2024, 02:44:16 PM »
@CountValentine this has English subtitles, you might find it interesting to watch.

https://x.com/RanTwil/status/1795070153580781828
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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #389 on: August 06, 2024, 07:14:04 PM »
@CountValentine this has English subtitles, you might find it interesting to watch.

https://x.com/RanTwil/status/1795070153580781828

Complete series available here (VPN with Israeli IP address needed to view). It is available with Hebrew or English subtitles.

Impressions after watching the entire series are:

1. The British are the biggest culprits.
2. The IslamoNazi Ideology was promoted by Hajj Amin Al-Husseini, who tactically and forcefully maintained political control even while exiled.
3. The Arabs always turned to violence as a first (and second, third, etc.) resort.
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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #390 on: August 07, 2024, 03:36:10 AM »
Impressions after watching the entire series are:

1. The British are the biggest culprits.
2. The IslamoNazi Ideology was promoted by Hajj Amin Al-Husseini, who tactically and forcefully maintained political control even while exiled.
3. The Arabs always turned to violence as a first (and second, third, etc.) resort.
I didn't watch the series but from my own research, these conclusions are pretty much spot-on.
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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #391 on: August 07, 2024, 11:13:01 AM »
I didn't watch the series but from my own research, these conclusions are pretty much spot-on.

Some is common knowledge. The series brings to light the enormity of #1 (and the Sykes-Picot disaster is just another part of the arrogance, hubris and dishonesty of the British).
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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #392 on: August 07, 2024, 02:08:10 PM »
Complete series available here (VPN with Israeli IP address needed to view). It is available with Hebrew or English subtitles.
Is there more than this?

https://x.com/RanTwil/status/1795080080139411493

https://x.com/RanTwil/status/1795080084174389374
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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #393 on: August 08, 2024, 12:09:17 AM »
Is there more than this?

https://x.com/RanTwil/status/1795080080139411493

https://x.com/RanTwil/status/1795080084174389374

Other than the availability with a choice of Hebrew or English subtitles, no.  For some reason I didn't realize when I posted that the entire series was posted on X.
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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #394 on: August 08, 2024, 10:23:30 AM »
I think this is an excellent follow up to the above series, by someone who shifted from left to right, explaining the thinking across the spectrum, and the current situation.

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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #395 on: August 08, 2024, 10:38:36 AM »
And then there's this guy (I haven't listened to this interview yet, but listened to one in Hebrew with him. He comes across as an arrogant elitist, and while he is a left-winger, he is of the type of the founding generation of the state).

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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #396 on: August 21, 2024, 05:01:41 PM »
Wasn't sure which thread is most appropriate, so I decided to post this here. The expressions on the faces of the stunned Arab representatives is simply gold.

https://x.com/HillelNeuer/status/1826355702019096809
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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #397 on: August 21, 2024, 05:33:44 PM »
Wasn't sure which thread is most appropriate, so I decided to post this here. The expressions on the faces of the stunned Arab representatives is simply gold.

https://x.com/HillelNeuer/status/1826355702019096809
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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #398 on: August 21, 2024, 07:59:11 PM »
https://x.com/SpencerJJoseph/status/1807130333877358911
Honest question, were those actually the borders of Britain's Palestine? I've seen arguments that most of the Jordanian area was administered separately from the get go.
Not looking for arguments on the intent of the mandate, or the skewed world opinion or wtvr. Just some contemporary sources which definitively lay out the borders of the British mandate for Palestine

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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #399 on: August 21, 2024, 08:41:15 PM »
Honest question, were those actually the borders of Britain's Palestine? I've seen arguments that most of the Jordanian area was administered separately from the get go.
Not looking for arguments on the intent of the mandate, or the skewed world opinion or wtvr. Just some contemporary sources which definitively lay out the borders of the British mandate for Palestine
I believe these were the borders as of the San Remo conference which was when the British wrested it from the Ottomans.