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Re: Rally in Washington 11/14/23
« Reply #180 on: November 10, 2023, 11:23:03 AM »
“Rabbi” Wise caused a lot of problems then

You can put the “Wise” in quotes too :P
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Re: Rally in Washington 11/14/23
« Reply #181 on: November 10, 2023, 11:36:50 AM »
Interesting, need to read up on that, do you have a link?

Whatever risks there were are incomparable to what’s going on now.
Really? You should really read up then. How the tables have turned, then it was the frumme who did all the organizing without caring about what the goyim will say, and now it's exactly opposite.

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Re: Rally in Washington 11/14/23
« Reply #182 on: November 10, 2023, 11:40:55 AM »
Really? You should really read up then. How the tables have turned
Yes really.
then it was the frumme who did all the organizing without caring about what the goyim will say, and now it's exactly opposite.
על זה אנו דנין if it’s a wise decision currently.

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Re: Rally in Washington 11/14/23
« Reply #183 on: November 10, 2023, 11:41:12 AM »
Only because G-d didn't allow it.
It's clear that Israel had no plans to stop an attack from Gaza and that this could have been 100x worse.

Comeon. Don't diminish the Holocaust by saying this is the same.
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Re: Rally in Washington 11/14/23
« Reply #184 on: November 10, 2023, 11:43:26 AM »
Comeon. Don't diminish the Holocaust by saying this is the same.
1. Who said it's the same?
2. We're facing an enemy that certainly would do the same if they had the opportunity. Turns out they did have the opportunity.
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Re: Rally in Washington 11/14/23
« Reply #185 on: November 10, 2023, 11:44:14 AM »
Comeon. Don't diminish the Holocaust by saying this is the same.
I don't think that stating the obvious (namely, that if Hamas had their way, they would slaughter all 8 million Jews in Eretz Yisroel) is diminishing the Holocaust one bit.

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Re: Rally in Washington 11/14/23
« Reply #186 on: November 10, 2023, 11:47:01 AM »
but the way to win over the haters is by being לאלפי רבבה and having lots of children.

What’s the point in having lots of children if they won’t attend rallies anyway?

:P /s
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Re: Rally in Washington 11/14/23
« Reply #187 on: November 10, 2023, 11:48:13 AM »
Only because G-d didn't allow it.
It's clear that Israel had no plans to stop an attack from Gaza and that this could have been 100x worse.
I would actually say the opposite. Israel had every intention and protocol in place to prevent the attacks from Gaza. Only G-d showed us that He is in control of what happens and not them.

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Re: Rally in Washington 11/14/23
« Reply #188 on: November 10, 2023, 11:52:31 AM »
I would actually say the opposite. Israel had every intention and protocol in place to prevent the attacks from Gaza. Only G-d showed us that He is in control of what happens and not them.
I really don't know where this attitude of not "kereng velten" came from. Our Rebbes and Rabbeim did the utmost they could to save Jews anywhere. I'm sure you are familiar with the history of the Vaad Hatzalah and similar efforts. No one was busy darshening about why it happened or not. They got to work and left the chesboines for a different time.

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Re: Rally in Washington 11/14/23
« Reply #189 on: November 10, 2023, 11:53:32 AM »
What’s the point in having lots of children if they won’t attend rallies anyway?

:P /s

You can fight wars but you can't fight demographics.
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Re: Rally in Washington 11/14/23
« Reply #190 on: November 10, 2023, 11:55:34 AM »
I really don't know where this attitude of not "kereng velten" came from. Our Rebbes and Rabbeim did the utmost they could to save Jews anywhere. I'm sure you are familiar with the history of the Vaad Hatzalah and similar efforts. No one was busy darshening about why it happened or not. They got to work and left the chesboines for a different time.
Who said anything about not helping save people? He made a cheshbon and I responded. Responsibility and hishtadlus doesn't mean we control the outcome.

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Re: Rally in Washington 11/14/23
« Reply #191 on: November 10, 2023, 11:56:41 AM »
1. Who said it's the same?


Anyone who says that being for the Rabbi's march then needs to also be in favor of this one.

2. We're facing an enemy that certainly would do the same if they had the opportunity. Turns out they did have the opportunity.

No they did not. This was a tenth of the amount the Nazi's killed in one day. https://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-nazi-holocaust-efficiency-20190103-story.html
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Re: Rally in Washington 11/14/23
« Reply #192 on: November 10, 2023, 11:56:52 AM »
Who said anything about not helping save people? He made a cheshbon and I responded.
You're right. It wasn't really targeted to you specifically.

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Re: Rally in Washington 11/14/23
« Reply #193 on: November 10, 2023, 11:57:56 AM »
No they did not. This was a tenth of the amount the Nazi's killed in one day. https://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-nazi-holocaust-efficiency-20190103-story.html
Not the first day.

In any case , it's irrelevant. The intentions are the same.

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Re: Rally in Washington 11/14/23
« Reply #194 on: November 10, 2023, 11:58:17 AM »
I would actually say the opposite. Israel had every intention and protocol in place to prevent the attacks from Gaza. Only G-d showed us that He is in control of what happens and not them.
G-d is always running the show, but Israeli arrogance and overreliance on technology was also on display.

It was also predicted years ago by a Major General that has been working with us on the tefilin campaign: https://fathomjournal.org/separation-is-not-the-answer-gershon-hacohen-on-israels-security/
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Re: Rally in Washington 11/14/23
« Reply #195 on: November 10, 2023, 11:59:04 AM »
Not the first day.

In any case , it's irrelevant. The intentions are the same.
But they are already being thwarted. There were many with similar intentions for thousands of years who were unable to implement them.
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Re: Rally in Washington 11/14/23
« Reply #196 on: November 10, 2023, 11:59:31 AM »
Sure, but it was also arrogance and overreliance on technology.

It was also predicted years ago by a Major General that has been working with us on the tefilin campaign: https://fathomjournal.org/separation-is-not-the-answer-gershon-hacohen-on-israels-security/
Precisely- to show the falseness of כחי ועוצם ידי! I actually wanted to respond to you in the other thread but things move so fast around here :).

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Re: Rally in Washington 11/14/23
« Reply #197 on: November 10, 2023, 12:01:48 PM »
Anyone who says that being for the Rabbi's march then needs to also be in favor of this one.
No they did not. This was a tenth of the amount the Nazi's killed in one day. https://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-nazi-holocaust-efficiency-20190103-story.html
1. Who said that you have to the in favor of this one?
2. Again, nobody said they did. But they clearly would. Nobody said it's the same.
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Re: Rally in Washington 11/14/23
« Reply #198 on: November 10, 2023, 12:02:37 PM »
Precisely- to show the falseness of כחי ועוצם ידי!
As long as you have a direct line with G-d to know his reasoning, I have some more questions I need answers to.
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Re: Rally in Washington 11/14/23
« Reply #199 on: November 10, 2023, 12:04:57 PM »
. They got to work and left the chesboines for a different time.
Question at hand is what the wise way to work on this is.